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wiiforever on 01 February 2008

^Yeah, but it is still selling fairly well in Japan so it's quite likely (was Wii sportsd top 5 in Japan last week if i'm not mistaken)



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Desroko on 01 February 2008

It was number one, nearly 100K. It should do better this week, given that Wii console sales are going to spike.



Lightning08 on 01 February 2008
tiachopvutru said:
Lightning08 said:

@wiiforever


Yeah, but who cares? Any console can pack a game in with EU/US and after 3 years claim it to be the best selling game. The main thing is, 3rd parties don't care about that, the media don't care about that, no one outside the hardcore for the console in question cares about that. If Wii Sports was selling this well outside of being bundled than the media would be all over it but as it is, no one cares.

When this gen is over people are going to talk about Mario Galaxy, Brawl, GTAIV etc... sales, no one will give a damn about Wii Sports because it was packed in whether it's highest selling or not.


Given that it sells nearly 3mil in Japan, one region alone where it's not bundle, I do see a reason for others to care...


You may see reason but it's too bad that they don't. The fact that it is bundled with every single console outside Japan negates the worth or value of the sales whether Nintendo fans want to accept it or not.

Bundled games sales are worthless. NPD, GFK, Charttrack and all major tracking companies don't even bother with them. They don't list them, they don't mention them and the reason that is because they are worthless. The EU/US consumer didn't get a choice to get Wii Sports, Nintendo made the choice for them and that's why Wii Sports is negated. It's much the same way Sony is raming Blu-ray down every PS3 owners throat whether they care about Bluray or not.

If Europe and US had a choice about whether they wanted Wii Sports the sales would matter but that is not the case, therefore outside Japan they don't matter.



Desroko on 01 February 2008

That approach is flawed, however, because it treats Wii Sports as dead weight, when in reality it's probably the most successful marketing tool the industry has seen in decades. It's a reason to buy the Wii, not something that's forced on people. If the Wii had been bundled with a traditional game or nothing at all, it would not have sold at a record-breaking pace.



tabsina on 01 February 2008
Lightning08 said:
If Nintendo keep it bundled I don't see how it can't but since it's bundled with the EU/US consoles for free I don't think anyone outside the Nintendo faithful and hardcore really care.

well... we are on the Nintendo Discussion Board section of the forum... so it would make perfect sense to post something like this here



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Komodo on 01 February 2008

Mmmm I think its very possible...... unless we get Wii Sports 2 Online:)



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Lightning08 on 01 February 2008
Desroko said:
That approach is flawed, however, because it treats Wii Sports as dead weight, when in reality it's probably the most successful marketing tool the industry has seen in decades. It's a reason to buy the Wii, not something that's forced on people. If the Wii had been bundled with a traditional game or nothing at all, it would not have sold at a record-breaking pace.


How do you know why people are buying the Wii?  Wii Sports has always been available but in Europe the console was not always selling out and it was only when the heavy hitters starting coming in that the Wii starting selling out there so I think the Wii Sports influence is no where near what Nintendo fans think it is. And Wii Sports is dead weight because if it was such a great marketing tool and everyone wanted it they wouldn't need to bundle it and force it upon everyone outside Japan, people would buy it with their own free will. Nintendo themselves made Wii Sports dead weight when they took the free will of consumers away from them and forced the game upon them.

They are doing the same with Wii Play and the controller and that's why Wii Play sales are dead weight as well. I bought an extra controller to play Wii games with my wife, it came with Wii Play, that I did not want and the same thing applies to Wii Sports. When I bought a Wii it came with Wii Sports and I never wanted it, I wanted Zelda, Metroid Prime 3 etc... The free will choice got taken out of our hands and that's why Wii Sports sales outside Japan are ultimately worthless.



steven787 on 01 February 2008
Lightning08 said:
Desroko said:
That approach is flawed, however, because it treats Wii Sports as dead weight, when in reality it's probably the most successful marketing tool the industry has seen in decades. It's a reason to buy the Wii, not something that's forced on people. If the Wii had been bundled with a traditional game or nothing at all, it would not have sold at a record-breaking pace.


How do you know why people are buying the Wii? Wii Sports has always been available but in Europe the console was not always selling out and it was only when the heavy hitters starting coming in that the Wii starting selling out there so I think the Wii Sports influence is no where near what Nintendo fans think it is. And Wii Sports is dead weight because if it was such a great marketing tool and everyone wanted it they wouldn't need to bundle it and force it upon everyone outside Japan, people would buy it with their own free will. Nintendo themselves made Wii Sports dead weight when they took the free will of consumers away from them and forced the game upon them.

They are doing the same with Wii Play and the controller and that's why Wii Play sales are dead weight as well. I bought an extra controller to play Wii games with my wife, it came with Wii Play, that I did not want and the same thing applies to Wii Sports. When I bought a Wii it came with Wii Sports and I never wanted it, I wanted Zelda, Metroid Prime 3 etc... The free will choice got taken out of our hands and that's why Wii Sports sales outside Japan are ultimately worthless.

 

I think that the reason why he thinks (and I think) that a good portion of people buy the Wii because of Wii sports is because:

  • Wii Sports has become synonymous with  Wii on the mainstream news outlets.
  • Gamers, Gaming Media, Game Retailers (regardless of their opinion of the game or the console) seem to think that Wii Sports is as revolutionary as Super Mario Bros; which was also thought of as what made the NES what it was.
  • Wii Sports changed the way many people think about gaming.  It's not just for nerds to discuss or just an activity for teenage males to release adolescent masculine aggression .
  • Wii play isn't "Dead weight" either, nobody is forced into buying the Wii Remote with the game.

 

Now as far as a sales pissing contest Wii Sports and Wii Play shouldn't be counted, but those types of contest matter very little in the real world. What matters is profit, and all three companies seem as if they will finally be getting theirs.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Katilian on 01 February 2008
Lightning08 said:
Desroko said:
That approach is flawed, however, because it treats Wii Sports as dead weight, when in reality it's probably the most successful marketing tool the industry has seen in decades. It's a reason to buy the Wii, not something that's forced on people. If the Wii had been bundled with a traditional game or nothing at all, it would not have sold at a record-breaking pace.


How do you know why people are buying the Wii?  Wii Sports has always been available but in Europe the console was not always selling out and it was only when the heavy hitters starting coming in that the Wii starting selling out there so I think the Wii Sports influence is no where near what Nintendo fans think it is. And Wii Sports is dead weight because if it was such a great marketing tool and everyone wanted it they wouldn't need to bundle it and force it upon everyone outside Japan, people would buy it with their own free will. Nintendo themselves made Wii Sports dead weight when they took the free will of consumers away from them and forced the game upon them.

They are doing the same with Wii Play and the controller and that's why Wii Play sales are dead weight as well. I bought an extra controller to play Wii games with my wife, it came with Wii Play, that I did not want and the same thing applies to Wii Sports. When I bought a Wii it came with Wii Sports and I never wanted it, I wanted Zelda, Metroid Prime 3 etc... The free will choice got taken out of our hands and that's why Wii Sports sales outside Japan are ultimately worthless.


 Sorry, but you can buy a controller without Wii Play, and the controller with Wiiplay costs more. If people didn't want it, they wouldn't be paying the extra money for it. Wii Sports you might have an arguement for, but Wii Play is different.