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Heavenly_King said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Sony AND MS will have this and there is not much retailers can do about it. The Wii U is the only console that won't have any sort of restrictions and we see how well it is doing.

Dude, stop including Sony in the same bag as M$.   So far, everything Sony has said negates they will have the stupid things M$ is implementing.  So, just wait for E3 before spreading misconceptions and erroneous facts.

M$ supporters need to just deal with it, really.  


"At a roundtable this morning, Sony’s game studios chief, Shuhei Yoshida, told reporters that any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers."

http://www.dashhacks.com/ps4/ps4-news/yoshida-ps4-online-drm-will-be-up-to-publishers.html

I couldn't care less about DRM, because it does not affect me in any way. But what makes you think that publishers will use the OPTIONAL DRM stuff on Xbox One and won't use the OPTIONAL DRM stuff on PS4?



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kow is ignoring facts on purpose, it seems.

The news Im talking about broke on the 24th, the day after what you posted. It was about how publishers would take a cut of used game sales on Xbox One.

On the 24th, GameStop stock dropped by 11%, with it reaching 13% down at one point.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishers-to-receive-cut-of-xbox-one-pre-owned-sales-at-retail/0116137?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mcvuk%2Fstream+%28MCV%3A+Home+Stream%29

To say this had no impact on a company that makes a fuckton of profit off the used game market is nothing but stupid

Edit - Also, other companies have nothing to do with it. Your deflections are getting tedious.



                            

Carl2291 said:

kow is ignoring facts on purpose, it seems.

The news Im talking about broke on the 24th, the day after what you posted. It was about how publishers would take a cut of used game sales on Xbox One.

On the 24th, GameStop stock dropped by 11%, with it reaching 13% down at one point.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishers-to-receive-cut-of-xbox-one-pre-owned-sales-at-retail/0116137?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mcvuk%2Fstream+%28MCV%3A+Home+Stream%29

To say this had no impact on a company that makes a fuckton of profit off the used game market is nothing but stupid

Edit - Also, other companies have nothing to do with it. Your deflections are getting tedious.


maybe i am rading this wrong, but it looks like game stops stock had a small decrease after the news on the 24th and than started to recover the next week after a 3 day weekend

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GME+Interactive#symbol=gme;range=1m;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;



to make every body happy used games should had a 5 dollar fee to go to the game makers



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thranx said:

maybe i am rading this wrong, but it looks like game stops stock had a small decrease after the news on the 24th and than started to recover the next week after a 3 day weekend

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GME+Interactive#symbol=gme;range=1m;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;


You are. Here, seeing as you linked Yahoo. 

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/gamestop-stock-plummets-following-xbox-one-used-game-204230663.html

"GameStop stock dropped roughly 10% on Friday on concerns about earnings. It's down 21% this week."

Friday was the 24th. That huge drop, that was the 24th drop.



                            

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Munkeh111 said:

Essentially, if the DRM is too awful, they can change the console. It might aid the Wii U, but I don't think it will be significant. I think the issues with the Xbox One are being overblown and while they may seem harsh now, this console is meant to last 5 years. They want to take advantage of things like the cloud hence the internet requirements and they see donwloads as the answer, within the next few years. In order to make sure that everyone gets the same experience everything needs to be installed to the hard drive, which should allow better load times. Of course, they could avoid this by requring that people just put the disc in....

I won't waste time continuing the argument over all of this, as we have a clear difference of opinion, but I will respond to one thing.

If Sony and MS both do it, and sales of their consoles are dramatically down compared with Wii U, the first thing they'll do is a significant price cut, and hope that it solves the problem. It won't, in this case. By the time they go "we'd better drop the DRM", both systems will be stigmatised, and third parties will already be moving their development across. And dropping the DRM will only serve to further justify their shift towards the Wii U.

Anyway, if MS were smart, and this wasn't a push to give more power to publishers over consumers and to restrict used games and profit from used game sales, they'd go "you get one install-play from a disc, you must have internet connectivity to play an install. You may alternatively play with the disc in, in which case there's no internet required except for online functionality, and online functionality is restricted to one instance of the licence". It would mean that there would be NO internet functionality required for playing the system offline, but you would lose the ability to play without having to put the disc in.

Given that they're talking about allowing multiple people to play using the same license in the same way that iTunes does, this would be a no-nonsense solution. But I'm telling you right now, it's not going to happen.



Publisher fees. Not Microsofts.



It's just that simple.

i dont understand why buying a game is so complicated now. why can't i just go to gamestop, buy whatever i want, and then do whatever i want with it.

if this keeps up, console gaming is doomed just watch.



 

 

 

 

BenVTrigger said:
We are selling Xbox One.


Lol, come out of the cave to answer the bullshit I see? Where have you been?!?



deathgod33 said:
i dont understand why buying a game is so complicated now. why can't i just go to gamestop, buy whatever i want, and then do whatever i want with it.

if this keeps up, console gaming is doomed just watch.

You didn't think it would die eventually without this?

 

 

It would have. Everything will be all in one...