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DirtyP2002 on 07 June 2013
zhao3gold said:
I just have one question:

Sometime, I will be on business trip for several days, therefore, I will not open my XBOX ONE to check-in on line in those days.

Am I still able to play games once I came back home and switch on the console?


Sure. Just connect to the internet and you are ready to go.

You are not required to start the Xbox every day.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

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slowmo on 07 June 2013
weaveworld said:
slowmo said:

Don't bother quoting/replying to me, I have no intention of debating with the same people rehashing the same whinging that they've been doing for the last 3 weeks. We'll see by the end of the year just how many people are really bothered by these policies outside of gaming forums.

There you go, it's what posting in a forum is for right?

But surely you understand that people don't want to buy a console that will benefit them after 5 years time, thats almost a consoles' entire lifecycle. And since i've read every single post bar the last 30, there's not much bashing here, people just voicing opinions and invoking their rights as consumers, as they should.

 I posted my opinion, I have no interest in discussing it with the vast majority of people in this thread, that's my perogative

I picked a figure out of the air, it will likely be sooner.  Just like last generation and the generation before that, Sony will desperately try to implement the features on their console that Microsoft implement first.  It's not hard to see why this happens given Microsoft are arguably the biggest software developer in the world though, is it? 

I have no problems with legitimate concerns but a lot is just hating for the sake of it.  I mean complaining that you MAY not be able to play XBO games in 20 years time, seriously?  Two small points on that for example, first we don't know that will be the case, second how many people actually play on 20 year old consoles, especially with the modern era of emulation where you can improve your experience over gaming on the original hardware anyway.  I don't hear these concerns about Steam and it's servers in the event Valve ever went under yet those same Steam fans will hate on the 360 for this policy, it's hypocrisy at its finest.



ElPresidente7 on 07 June 2013
AnthonyW86 said:
ElPresidente7 said:

So does anyone of you guys believe in the following szenario? I really wonder what you think.

Will it be possible to register your friends as family members and share your game library with them. I think that is the only positive hope people here might have. Let real family members play on one account.

Or:

Will Microsoft verify, who really belongs to the family. How will Microsoft define family?! Your married moved out brother might not be considered as family. Will Microsoft verify with Kinect face recognition that only the account owner may play on that account?

No i think you will be able to register friends. The only downside will be, and they don't mention this but i'm sure it works this way, only one person can play the game at any given time. So you can add friends if you want, but it's no different from actual lending a copy of the game like today.

You honestly think, that after restricting basically everything else, they will allow 10 persons to share their games?!



Bonafide732 on 07 June 2013
zhao3gold said:
I really don't understand why people complain a lot about MS policy on XBOX ONE. Will it really change our gaming life?

I really don't know anyone around me doesn't connect to PSN or XBLIVE when they play games. Now, I think the majority people use WIFI connection. It means when the console is switched on, it will be automatically connected to internet. So why can't you connect to internet only once per 24hrs?


Thats in your life. In your world. I used to work for Direct Tv. Ive been to alot of neighborhoods that didnt have any internet access.  Yes in 2011 when i worked there. Ive been to alot of neighborhoods that had no internet access.. Low income neighborhoods. alot of neighborhoods in the county and country. on the East coast. Yes this changes alot. Those people already cant get a xbox. But who am i.. just a guy who wishes console gaming was kept simple i shouldnt have to worry about extra nonsense



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Player2 on 07 June 2013
AnthonyW86 said:
Player2 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
 

Then Microsoft will be required to state the term that the license on the game will run. In other words they are reguired to state at pruchase when they are going to shut down the servers. People alway's say ''you buy the license not the game''. Than my question is, what's the term that license can be used?

"(...) from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services (...)"

Translation: We can change the rules as we want.

Nope they can't. If i buy a license for say two years, and i can only use it one year i am entitled to a refund. So if Microsoft would state you can use that game for 10 years and you can only use 5, you are entiteld to a refund. You payed, they didn't deliver. But even if you aren't entitled to a refund and they can change the rules, they are still required to state the term that the license can be used.

And Apple can't sell products with only one year of warranty in Europe but they do. The 900K euros they had to pay to Italy are a misery that isn't going to stop them. It's worth it in the long run.

Laws are for losers like me, not giants like Microsoft.



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AnthonyW86 on 07 June 2013
Player2 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Player2 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
 

Then Microsoft will be required to state the term that the license on the game will run. In other words they are reguired to state at pruchase when they are going to shut down the servers. People alway's say ''you buy the license not the game''. Than my question is, what's the term that license can be used?

"(...) from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services (...)"

Translation: We can change the rules as we want.

Nope they can't. If i buy a license for say two years, and i can only use it one year i am entitled to a refund. So if Microsoft would state you can use that game for 10 years and you can only use 5, you are entiteld to a refund. You payed, they didn't deliver. But even if you aren't entitled to a refund and they can change the rules, they are still required to state the term that the license can be used.

And Apple can't sell products with only one year of warranty in Europe but they do. The 900K euros they had to pay to Italy are a misery that isn't going to stop them. It's worth it in the long run.

Laws are for losers like me, not giants like Microsoft.

I'm from The Netherlands and here Apple has been forced to change their warranty policy to two years, according to european laws. But we are talking about such a long time(atleast ten years, and probably much longer) that it really doesn't matter.



AnthonyW86 on 07 June 2013
ElPresidente7 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
ElPresidente7 said:

So does anyone of you guys believe in the following szenario? I really wonder what you think.

Will it be possible to register your friends as family members and share your game library with them. I think that is the only positive hope people here might have. Let real family members play on one account.

Or:

Will Microsoft verify, who really belongs to the family. How will Microsoft define family?! Your married moved out brother might not be considered as family. Will Microsoft verify with Kinect face recognition that only the account owner may play on that account?

No i think you will be able to register friends. The only downside will be, and they don't mention this but i'm sure it works this way, only one person can play the game at any given time. So you can add friends if you want, but it's no different from actual lending a copy of the game like today.

You honestly think, that after restricting basically everything else, they will allow 10 persons to share their games?!

I think they actually have to. They can restrict you from selling your lincense, but not from letting others use it. When you buy a game you get a license, in a game's case for a unlimited time. The only rule is, only one person can use it at the same time.



Darc Requiem on 07 June 2013
DJEVOLVE said:
Darc Requiem said:
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:

So I can access my whole library at every Xbox One out there, just by logging in with my account and without any discs?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

 

And people with 18.000 posts on a gaming forum complaining about connecting the console to the internet can not be taken seriously. I am sorry.

 

Actually this is very good news. VERY GOOD.


Im sure being told you're restricted is a great thing...somehow. Enjoy it.

Restricted?

Feel free to name me another console that allows you to access all (every single one!) your games on every console, just by logging in.


Feel free to name a console that will deny you access to all your games when the servers go down for more than 24 hours.

Then I'm pretty sure you just have to pop in the disc.

And if you can't connect to their servers, you can't play any of your games. The system has to check in every 24 hours.

@DirtyP

Are you saying XBL has never been down for more than 24 hours? I've had XBL for a decade, it's a usual occurence but it does happen.



Nsanity on 07 June 2013
Cirio said:
So what if you're a college/university student living in dorms and your campus doesn't allow internet connection for video game consoles? What if you're someone in the armed forces and you can't access the internet?

Greenberg did say something about Xbox One not suitable for someone in the Armed Forces.



hollabackenny on 07 June 2013
Bonafide732 said:
zhao3gold said:
I really don't understand why people complain a lot about MS policy on XBOX ONE. Will it really change our gaming life?

I really don't know anyone around me doesn't connect to PSN or XBLIVE when they play games. Now, I think the majority people use WIFI connection. It means when the console is switched on, it will be automatically connected to internet. So why can't you connect to internet only once per 24hrs?


Thats in your life. In your world. I used to work for Direct Tv. Ive been to alot of neighborhoods that didnt have any internet access.  Yes in 2011 when i worked there. Ive been to alot of neighborhoods that had no internet access.. Low income neighborhoods. alot of neighborhoods in the county and country. on the East coast. Yes this changes alot. Those people already cant get a xbox. But who am i.. just a guy who wishes console gaming was kept simple i shouldnt have to worry about extra nonsense

Why does it matter if people who DON'T have a xbox can't connect to the internet on a xbox they DON'T have?