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Forums - Politics Discussion - The Syrian Civil War Update Thread

Slimebeast said:
An exciting turn of events in the war now that Hezbollah has entered the conflict for real.

I wonder if Hezbollah really has sent as much as 5,000 fighters in Syria though. That's a lot of very well trained guerilla warfare combatants.


Much less than that I've heard.



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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57589252/u.s.-syria-used-chemical-weapons-crossing-red-line/

Unexpected, or perhaps Obama was just good at keeping it close to the vest.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Mr Khan said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57589252/u.s.-syria-used-chemical-weapons-crossing-red-line/

Unexpected, or perhaps Obama was just good at keeping it close to the vest.


...not really.  As far as I know, Europe and Israel both confirmed chemical weapons use a few weeks ago with the whitehouse response being "we need more time to be sure".

If anything I think Obama was just stalling and stalling as much as he could... but hell with all the scandals going on now, maybe raising the possibility a pointless war isn't such a bad idea.



Mr Khan said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57589252/u.s.-syria-used-chemical-weapons-crossing-red-line/

Unexpected, or perhaps Obama was just good at keeping it close to the vest.

Not this again...

//Checked the comments :D patriots have penetrated every corner of the internet.



Does anyone outside of Syria actually want to get involved this mess. If the rebels win sharia law will happen. If the current regime wins more people just keep dying it sure seems like a lose a lose.

I stated it before in a previous thread but why can't we just get out of the way and let Muslims create the Islamic state they so desperately want. Once they establish a country of origin the next big war can finally begin and this mess can be settled for a while.



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Foreigners killed in action in Syria and identified by the country of origin:

Iraq 848 (640 MEK)
Saudi Arabia
729
Russia 627 (439 Chechnya)
Tunisia 550
Egypt 489
Lebanon 439
Europe 330 (France, Germany, Britain, Belgium, Malta, Kosovo)
Afghanistan 301
Libya 263
Pakistan 261
Turkey 167
Jordan 129
Somali 117
Kuwait 119
Indonesia 55
Algeria 53
Yemen 52
Qatar 49
Uzbekistan 40
USA 35
Azerbaijan 21
Mauritania 7
Sierra Leone 6
Suriname 6

Published by Al-Manar (Beirut) as of June 13, 2013.

http://www.dampress.net/?page=show_det&category_id=6&id=28620&lang=ar

*Updated with proper English translation



mai said:

Foreigners killed in action in Syria and identified by the country of origin:

Iraq 848 (640 MEK)
Saudi Arabia
729
Russia 627 (439 Chechnya)
Tunisia 550
Egypt 489
Lebanon 439
Europe 330 (France, Germany, Britain, Belgium, Malta, Kosovo)
Afghanistan 301
Libya 263
Pakistan 261
Iraq 208
Turkey 167
Jordan 129
Somali 117
Kuwait 119
Indonesia 55
Algeria 53
Yemen 52
Qatar 49
Uzbekistan 40
USA 35
Azerbaijan 21
Mauritania 7
Sierra Leone 6
Suriname 6

Published by Al-Manar (Beirut) as of June 13, 2013.

http://www.dampress.net/?page=show_det&category_id=6&id=28620&lang=ar

*Updated with proper English translation


I'm guessing the first or second iraq is supposed to be Iran.

The US number is surprisingly low.  Considering all the paramiliary companies we have.



Kasz216 said:
mai said:

Foreigners killed in action in Syria and identified by the country of origin:

Iraq 848 (640 MEK)
Saudi Arabia
729
Russia 627 (439 Chechnya)
Tunisia 550
Egypt 489
Lebanon 439
Europe 330 (France, Germany, Britain, Belgium, Malta, Kosovo)
Afghanistan 301
Libya 263
Pakistan 261
Iraq 208
Turkey 167
Jordan 129
Somali 117
Kuwait 119
Indonesia 55
Algeria 53
Yemen 52
Qatar 49
Uzbekistan 40
USA 35
Azerbaijan 21
Mauritania 7
Sierra Leone 6
Suriname 6

Published by Al-Manar (Beirut) as of June 13, 2013.

http://www.dampress.net/?page=show_det&category_id=6&id=28620&lang=ar

*Updated with proper English translation


I'm guessing the first or second iraq is supposed to be Iran.

The US number is surprisingly low.  Considering all the paramiliary companies we have.

It's a typo, fixed.

I found it in some lousy translation and didn't grasp why there's two Iraqs, so I had to use Google Translate. The thing is there're 848 djundallahs from Iraq, out of which 640 are from "khalq", aka People's Mujahedin of Iran (MEK), terrorist organization that resides in Iraq.



And I just wanted to post this:

BBC's Lyse Doucet: Why Syria war is also EU's fight
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22933132

Some good "BBC propaganda" ;)



So let me recap:

1. Mid-end of May: some substantial success of SAA in al-Qseir, Hezbollah is getting seriously involved, this ain't no Libya time is on the side of SAA;
2. End of May: protests are hitting Turkey, looks absolutely like color revolution to me;
3. Early June: beginning of operation Northern Storm in Aleppo, FSA is retreating, few weeks more and this'd be a panic run;
4. Mid od June: Obama accusing Assad of using chemical weapons (why now? see 1. and 3.), instant deja vu -- no proofs, no investigation (previous incidents UN have pretty much ignored).

Since I had no faith that any support, outside of direct intervention, Obama might want to offer to FSA will have any serious impact on the fate of FSA, I was thinking Obama might have smth else up his sleeve (dunno what, like Turkey bigger involevement, maybe?). So what just has happened on G8? Some tough words from Canadian whoever he is, and that's it? Where did all the hawks go?