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osed125 on 02 June 2013
kupomogli said:
osed125 said:

of course not every developer/publisher is going to have DRM. Like I mentioned above, my fear is that if the majority of 3rd party publishers implement DRM, then the majority of the games will have a pay wall. Would you like to give me some examples of those PC games (that are not digital downloads)? I can only think of indie and some very few other games, can't think of any game that comes from a big 3rd party publisher.

Whatever happens this is going to be a very interesting gen, and for the worse imo. 

I thihk people should wait until it's clarified and when we see that almost no developers use this.  Having the option to doesn't mean they'll do it.  They've had the option to do this on the PS3 like with the online pass.  They could very well have blocked out the entire game.  EA blocked out the entire Alice 1 from Alice Madness Returns which is on every disc, but even they didn't block the entire game, meaning both Alice 1 and 2. 

They were probably scared to do so. EA was waiting for a big console manufacturer to pull the trigger first, and it worked for them. We are hearing people bashing MS and the Xbone to no end, and while gamers are complaining about EA, it's not even close to MS right now.



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KungKras on 02 June 2013

So it basically means that they will not stand in the way of publishers on their platform screwing customers with DRM



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scat398 on 02 June 2013

My main problem with the fight against drm is that it goes against everything we currently do with media.

Music pays royalties, online and physical.
Movies, books, tv shows, all pay royalties on the used market.

Yet for some reason games are supposed to be different. Drm is needed.



Th3PANO on 02 June 2013
scat398 said:
My main problem with the fight against drm is that it goes against everything we currently do with media.

Music pays royalties, online and physical.
Movies, books, tv shows, all pay royalties on the used market.

Yet for some reason games are supposed to be different. Drm is needed.


so, cause it isn't the standard we should change it? expect more pirates then.



kupomogli on 02 June 2013
scat398 said:
My main problem with the fight against drm is that it goes against everything we currently do with media.

Music pays royalties, online and physical.
Movies, books, tv shows, all pay royalties on the used market.

Yet for some reason games are supposed to be different. Drm is needed.

No they don't. You buy used anything and not a dime of it is going back to whoever the creator or publisher was.  All profit goes to the used dealer.  It's bullshit how video game publishers are the only ones that think that they're different and they force this on the market.



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Hynad on 02 June 2013
KungKras said:
So it basically means that they will not stand in the way of publishers on their platform screwing customers with DRM


That's entirely up to those publishers to willingly harm their own reputation of not.



S.T.A.G.E. on 02 June 2013
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Actually the games department has been a bigger chunk of Sony than in the past. Their electronics isnt doing that great these days and they need and its not that they dont make it quality stuff, they just make the average consumer pay too much for it when theres other alternatives. When I asked the question about what other areas is Sony majorly focusing on outside of games for the console. I said the console...I am not talking abou the brand. We know MS's major interests are outside of gaming and they made that abundantly clear with the Xboxone, byt trying to undercut Apple & Samsung in one fell swoop. That is the definition of spreading yourself thin.

Of course MS has major interests outside of gaming. Things that bring in more money than gaming. Sony has major interests outside of gaming as well. Like movies/music and selling life insurance. Especially the insurance part, since they make more money as an insurance company than anything else. You can try to sugarcoat Sony's intentions and strategy all you want but the fact of the matter is these are two big companies who exist solely to try and make money off of consumers.

As for focuses as it pertains to the console, without detailed documentation regarding how much each of the big 3 spend on all avenues of their consoles, you're just peddling off your opinion as fact.


There better be games that will bring the casuals towards the Xbox One in droves because they will not shell out $500 for a settop box console without kinect games. Yes, games are needed to even convince most non-gamers to game. Kinect will probably have 5-6 titles for casuals out of the 15 exclusives so hopefully at least two are a hit. 

As for Sony, I didn't sugarcoat a thing. If saying Sony was being gamercentric....you obviously didn't see the both of their reveals. I am just telling you what you never want to hear.

Casuals won't shell out $500 for a PS4 without some games that bring in the casuals either. What's your point? You think Sony isn't going to try and bring in some casual gamers? This gif is just as cringe-worthy as that Nintendo Wii Music E3 presentation. Yikes.


MS saved their games for E3 and were even nice enough to tell you they would before the reveal even started. Not their fault if you didn't listen.


Casuals will shell out money for whatever is marketed to be the most buzzworthy product in their market. When you see shit like that gif you put up you can tell Sony doesnt give a crap about casuals and I've been saying this forever. Sony knows they exist and they can help the sales but even though the tech is there they dont support it.



Play4Fun on 02 June 2013

Yeah, they said this from the beginning but people didn't want to listen.

They won't implement it on first party games but third parties can if they want, meaning whatever multiplat has DRM on Xbox One will have it on the PS4 version as well.



Play4Fun on 02 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Casuals will shell out money for whatever is marketed to be the most buzzworthy product in their market. When you see shit like that gif you put up you can tell Sony doesnt give a crap about casuals and I've been saying this forever. Sony knows they exist and they can help the sales but even though the tech is there they dont support it.


Yeah, you can convince yourself of that just like you convinced yourself that PS4 wouldn't have any DRM.



S.T.A.G.E. on 02 June 2013
scat398 said:
My main problem with the fight against drm is that it goes against everything we currently do with media.

Music pays royalties, online and physical.
Movies, books, tv shows, all pay royalties on the used market.

Yet for some reason games are supposed to be different. Drm is needed.


Digital products are meant to be DRM controlled. EULA's have been a warning of that for years but first-sale doctrine protects gamers in the U.S. PC gamers arent protected by anything. Companies can run rampant will blockages and hangups over there.