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DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

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Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.



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AbbathTheGrim said:
DanneSandin said:
Mad55 said:
DanneSandin said:
Lololol! No.

you think their lying?

I don't think they actually care. If they wanted the indies they wouldn't make it so damn hard for indies to publish on the Xboner. Just look at what Sony and Nintendo are doing - THAT'S how it's done. If you want indie this gen you better stay away from MicroSoft.

I don't think we should use "Xboner" for the console, we should use "Xbone". We could use "Xboner" for the Xbone owners = Xbone + owner = Xboner = plural = Xboners. My two cents.


LOL Its so funny but whenever I write Xbone...I have to stop myself from writing Xboner. MS really really made it so easy this gen. LOL



DanneSandin said:
Mad55 said:
DanneSandin said:
Mad55 said:
DanneSandin said:
Lololol! No.

you think their lying?

I don't think they actually care. If they wanted the indies they wouldn't make it so damn hard for indies to publish on the Xboner. Just look at what Sony and Nintendo are doing - THAT'S how it's done. If you want indie this gen you better stay away from MicroSoft.

While Microsoft approach to idies isn't as good as Nintendo's new method I don't think they will have a lack of good indie games for the Xbox one but eh.

Considering how the indie community have reacted to the Xboner I'd say you better get another console if you wanna play those kind of games. Sure, Xboner WILL get indies, just not as many as PS4 or Wii U I think.

The way I see it..it's just like when Netflix went on 360....Every Sony fan said it was not important..Now Sony claims PS3 is the best platform for Netflix....

See what I did there....ok you just let me know



 



DanneSandin said:
DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

User was warned for this post - Kantor

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

so If MS is all about "dudebros" and "Casual" what is PS4 going for?

your wrong...XBox Live had the Community games channel for inde to self publish..



 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
DanneSandin said:
Mad55 said:
DanneSandin said:
Lololol! No.

you think their lying?

I don't think they actually care. If they wanted the indies they wouldn't make it so damn hard for indies to publish on the Xboner. Just look at what Sony and Nintendo are doing - THAT'S how it's done. If you want indie this gen you better stay away from MicroSoft.

I don't think we should use "Xboner" for the console, we should use "Xbone". We could use "Xboner" for the Xbone owners = Xbone + owner = Xboner = plural = Xboners. My two cents.


LOL Its so funny but whenever I write Xbone...I have to stop myself from writing Xboner. MS really really made it so easy this gen. LOL


Xboner > Xbot

+10



 



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This is good. That way I won't see XBLA infested with "Luca No" type of games. Anyone serious about making games should take MS's offer. Indies sell more on 360.



DanneSandin said:
DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

User was warned for this post - Kantor

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

Microsoft's policy hasn't changed, yet we have seen plenty of indie games on the 360. They can complain about it all they want but in the end it boils down to money, and that is something that can be made quite easily when they make games for XBLA. 

I'm not saying Microsoft's policy on this issue is good, but it never stopped indie developers from making games for MS's systems before and it won't stop them now.



DanneSandin said:
DanneSandin said:

Lololol! No.

User was warned for this post - Kantor

Since I got moderated by this I will go more indepth why indies won't do good on Xboner; It's quite obvious that M$ is going after the dudebro market (with all the sports games and CoD: Ghosts), and they ain't interested in indie games. The second reason is that indie devs needs a publisher to get a game out on xbla - and that's just hurting indie devs, not helping them in anyway.

If you're a indie dev you best go to Sony or Nintendo; there you can publish your own game (without a publisher) and you can set your own pricing. If M$ had their way the indie market would dry up and die, and I've already diven the reasons above. M$ seem to be all about Dudebros and casuals (Kinect) this time around. That's sad.

XBLA is filled with variety that more then offsets the retail stereotypes.Seriously....every year it gets creative and innovative games in multiple genres.

bros don't play Minecraft, Fez, Battleblock theatre......



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

MS basically says they will publish all indie games....essentially funding all game developement.

You then have indie guys who can afford to self publish....offcourse expressing outrage. But this strategy isn't necessarily bad......

XBLA will get plenty games, from developers who can't afford to make them themselves.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

The way I see this is that MS will give indy devs a platform with many tools to make sure they can make compelling games. It also prevents a slew of bad games since they will need a publisher and a publisher will not invest in some crappy titles like what we've seen on XBLIG.