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J_Allard said:
JayWood2010 said:
Devil_Survivor said:
ironmanDX said:
BenVTrigger said:
The only thing I find weird about is half the people yelling about how they hate it claim they love Steam.

When basically MS is just turning their console into a more highly featured Steam box


Lol, JayWood mentioned something similar too. I also mentioned that there pc is always connected, so is mobile phone, tablets, Iphones/pads.... Not seeing how it's so hard to see past your fingers people.

That's funny how you fail to mention that if you unconnect those devices from the internet they still will play the games you have installed on them.


BEcause if you disconnect from the internet you can still play games on X1 haha That is why he left it out lol


Are you saying if you disconnect from the Internet you can still play games on Xbone? Because everything I have read says you have to connect once a day.

Yes you can still play the game.  Been confirmed multiple times.  They said the Xbox will connect to the internet once a day.  We don't know what that means yet.  Could be to update the console, servers, etc.  We dont know what that means yet.




       

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JayWood2010 said:

Yes you can still play the game.  Been confirmed multiple times.  They said the Xbox will connect to the internet once a day.  We don't know what that means yet.  Could be to update the console, servers, etc.  We dont know what that means yet.

Link to any confirmations about being able to continue playing games on it if you haven't connected to the Internet in awhile?



NobleTeam360 said:
Areym said:
Alright, this is getting silly.

The reasons people are up in arms is because of all the reports coming from all sides of MS putting very anti-consumer friendly policies and requirements like kinect connection requirement, the alleged used game charge fee, 24-hour connection requirement and few more. Also, their disregard of the hardcore/dedicated user base was very disappointing. Yes, MS reported that most of their games will be unveiled at E3 but all they focused on the reveal, the FIRST IMPRESSION, was a cable box full of sports entertainment, that is apparently also a water cooler.

From a technical standpoint, the xbox one is a beast and will probably fight toe-to-toe with the PS4. It's just how they handled their reveal and their ludicrous requirements that was disastrous.


I don't get why people are scared of kinect being online all the time. It comes with the Xbox, unless some people think the government is watching everything you do.

Well, if it breaks due to malfunctions or the owners fault, essentially my xbox one will not work. From what I have read, the Xbox one does not work if Kinect is not hook-up so basically I would have to wait for repairs under warranty or buy a new device, which simply put, is some real bullshit.

Assuming my information is wrong and please feel free to correct me; FUCK.THAT.SHIT.



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J_Allard said:
JayWood2010 said:

Yes you can still play the game.  Been confirmed multiple times.  They said the Xbox will connect to the internet once a day.  We don't know what that means yet.  Could be to update the console, servers, etc.  We dont know what that means yet.

Link to any confirmations about being able to continue playing games on it if you haven't connected to the Internet in awhile?


By Phil Harrison

"For single-player games that don’t require connectivity to Xbox Live, you should be able to play those without interruption should your Internet connection go down. Blu-ray movies and other downloaded entertainment should be accessible when your Internet connection may be interrupted. But the device is fundamentally designed to be expanded and extended by the Internet as many devices are today."

Xbox One is no different in that it requires, at some point in the beginning and at various times through its on state, to connect to our cloud and to our Internet. That is to deliver Xbox Live functionality, that is to deliver download content to you, that is to deliver some of the innovations around TV and entertainment that we showed today. But it doesn’t require it to be online all the time."

As you can see games and movies can be played offline.  The only thing internet is needed for is Xbox live functionality, DLC, etc.




       

JayWood2010 said:
J_Allard said:
JayWood2010 said:

Yes you can still play the game.  Been confirmed multiple times.  They said the Xbox will connect to the internet once a day.  We don't know what that means yet.  Could be to update the console, servers, etc.  We dont know what that means yet.

Link to any confirmations about being able to continue playing games on it if you haven't connected to the Internet in awhile?


By Phil Harrison

"For single-player games that don’t require connectivity to Xbox Live, you should be able to play those without interruption should your Internet connection go down. Blu-ray movies and other downloaded entertainment should be accessible when your Internet connection may be interrupted. But the device is fundamentally designed to be expanded and extended by the Internet as many devices are today."

Xbox One is no different in that it requires, at some point in the beginning and at various times through its on state, to connect to our cloud and to our Internet. That is to deliver Xbox Live functionality, that is to deliver download content to you, that is to deliver some of the innovations around TV and entertainment that we showed today. But it doesn’t require it to be online all the time."

As you can see games and movies can be played offline.  The only thing internet is needed for is Xbox live functionality, DLC, etc.

See now here is the issue. You "should" be able to play offline without interruption? Why not, "why yes, of course. Why on Earth would you need to connect to play offline retail content?"

 

Here is something from Kotaku:

 

"There are many devices in your life that require the Internet to function," he said. "Xbox One is no different in that it requires, at some point in the beginning and at various times through its on state, to connect to our cloud and to our Internet. That is to deliver Xbox Live functionality, that is to deliver download content to you, that is to deliver some of the innovations around TV and entertainment that we showed today. But it doesn’t require it to be online all the time."

So how often does it check your connection? "Depends on the experience," Harrison said.

"For single-player games that don’t require connectivity to Xbox Live, you should be able to play those without interruption should your Internet connection go down. Blu-ray movies and other downloaded entertainment should be accessible when your Internet connection may be interrupted. But the device is fundamentally designed to be expanded and extended by the Internet as many devices are today."

And here's the bombshell:

Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours.

Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.

So the system is built to work even if your Internet connection goes down, but you still have to be connected at least once a day to use it, according to Harrison. We're not sure exactly what would happen if you don't connect once per day—and that timeframe could change—but this doesn't sound good for anyone who was hoping to use Xbox One without an Internet connection.


So it seems that if your Internet goes down, yes, you can still play offline games... for 24 hours or so. Who knows past that.



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Another, from Matt Booty:

Adam Sessler: Now that brings us to what is probably the greater concern for the core gamers out there, which is the notion of always-online. That really wasn't addressed specifically in the presentation today. Is there any sort of clarity as to whether or not you have to have a persistent internet connection, or just an internet connection that offers sort of a handshake to just kind of verify that there is something connected to the internet.

Matt Booty: Yeah that's another topic where there's been a bunch of stuff flying around and I would probably look to what our official update through the day is. What I'll say is that we diffidently designed XBox One to take advantage of everything that the internet has to offer. And everything that being ready and connected can bring. So in terms of automatic updates, in terms of expanded content, obviously multiplayer, online play, the power of the cloud. These are all the great advantages of the internet. I think we've gotten a little hung up today on some of the details, and is it two minutes or two hours, and I like to think more about all the advantages of that an internet connected device are going to bring to a console.

Adam Sessler: I mean so if you are to sort of look at it, in terms of the idea- and I think there was a memo out there maybe a couple of weeks ago, if you have a truly solitary single player experience, would that require an internet connection?

Matt Booty: I think we're going to- so in the absence of any internet connection, you're going to be able to play blu-ray movies, and there are likely to be some games modes that you'll be able to continue to play. But again, the XBox One was really designed to take advantage of the modern era where people have got high speed internet, where it's just all the advantages it brings in terms of the cloud, knowing what your friends are doing, online play and everything else that goes along with having an internet connection.

 

It's becoming pretty clear that games will require an online DRM. I originally thought this might just be locked to games on the HDD, like, you have to log on at least once evry such and such amount of time in order to keep playing your games without a disc, but if you wanna play offline, gotta use the disc.

I wonder if they really rely on the cloud so much that it makes the games require an Internet connection.



JayWood2010 said:
IT's the internet. Everybody over-reacts.

This.

And the fact that everyone is so freaking impatient.

To add to all that, it's MS (which people hate) and they seemingly are doing some things that many hardcore gamers will find negative.

 

When you add up all of those, you get massive amounts of negativity.



Because you can't use used games on the thing. The majority of gamers THESE days use game trade ins and gamefly to play. Whether you agree with that practice or not, it's true. So when a console comes out that takes it away? Yeah, not pretty.

It would only work if all three did the same, which they aren't. Xbox is DOA.



Yes finally people are bringing the truth out. For about seven consecutive months, Sony fanboys have been systematically plotting to exterminate any traces of Xbox positivity from this site. I really believe the mods need to crack down and permaban any known Sony fans who says anything remotely controversial. These are the people who need to be banned, not the reasonable Xbox fans.



J_Allard said:

Another, from Matt Booty:

Adam Sessler: Now that brings us to what is probably the greater concern for the core gamers out there, which is the notion of always-online. That really wasn't addressed specifically in the presentation today. Is there any sort of clarity as to whether or not you have to have a persistent internet connection, or just an internet connection that offers sort of a handshake to just kind of verify that there is something connected to the internet.

Matt Booty: Yeah that's another topic where there's been a bunch of stuff flying around and I would probably look to what our official update through the day is. What I'll say is that we diffidently designed XBox One to take advantage of everything that the internet has to offer. And everything that being ready and connected can bring. So in terms of automatic updates, in terms of expanded content, obviously multiplayer, online play, the power of the cloud. These are all the great advantages of the internet. I think we've gotten a little hung up today on some of the details, and is it two minutes or two hours, and I like to think more about all the advantages of that an internet connected device are going to bring to a console.

Adam Sessler: I mean so if you are to sort of look at it, in terms of the idea- and I think there was a memo out there maybe a couple of weeks ago, if you have a truly solitary single player experience, would that require an internet connection?

Matt Booty: I think we're going to- so in the absence of any internet connection, you're going to be able to play blu-ray movies, and there are likely to be some games modes that you'll be able to continue to play. But again, the XBox One was really designed to take advantage of the modern era where people have got high speed internet, where it's just all the advantages it brings in terms of the cloud, knowing what your friends are doing, online play and everything else that goes along with having an internet connection.

 

It's becoming pretty clear that games will require an online DRM. I originally thought this might just be locked to games on the HDD, like, you have to log on at least once evry such and such amount of time in order to keep playing your games without a disc, but if you wanna play offline, gotta use the disc.

I wonder if they really rely on the cloud so much that it makes the games require an Internet connection.


why cant he answer a simply question? WHats with all the cloak and dagger? ANd people wonder why some are suspicious