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Mazty said:

Wha?

Weekly sales - what is popular/what is selling
Comparing games - Halo vs Killzone shows which FPS genre is more popular, likewise with Forza vs GT as well as something indicitive about those console owners
Comparing consoles - shows what is popular so then you can ask why, who had better marketing etc
Comparing an FPS to a racer...erm k? GT fans out number Reach fans. Good to know?

Could you please explain to me the importance in this find as you seem to see something in it that I'm clearly not seeing?

 

Comparnig weekly sales are relatively unimportant, because the market one week may not be representative of the general market. Comparing the PS3 and 360 are relatively unimportant, since their difference is likely to be less than 1% so it really doesn't matter, and since both are losers anyway. Comparing sales of two games that sold 500k each is relatively unimportant, since neither of those games would have made any significant impact on the market. Yet VGC users are very interested in these things and much more pointless comparisons. 

Comparing Halo and GT tells which console has the biggest exclusive. Like I said, you can call it pointless, but having the biggest exclusive is important to many. I'm not interesting in discussing if it's important since importance is subjective. I'll accept that it's pointless (I really don't care what you want to label it). Just know that many pointless comparisons are the basis of this site. 

Questions for you though. You seem to be implying that comparing games of the same genre and comparing consoles are objectively more important that comparing the biggest exclusives of two different consoles. Why? Why is it important to know which console had better marketting? Why is it important to know which FPS game is more popular? And what makes those more important than knowing which console has the biggest exclusive? Please, only objective answers.



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dsgrue3 said:
sales2099 said:

I didnt read the posts and I disagree that it is off topic. More like its a offshoot of the topic and just a observation.

You're right, it's militant trolling and has been repeated from page 1 of the thread. I complained about this logic several pages ago.

Thread is about GT5 vs Halo Reach. 1 game vs 1 game.

Not franchise vs franchise.

Not game vs 5 games or whatever other absurd comparison you make.

Understand?

No, implying I can't comphrehend threads is militant trolling. Lets not get personal shall we...like you seem to do with everybody you disagree with.

IP vs IP can be fair or unfair, depends on frequency of release. Not my fault if one had less releases. You can filter out criteria to get a specific result that pleases you, but it certainly isn't the full picture.



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sales2099 said:
dsgrue3 said:
sales2099 said:

I didnt read the posts and I disagree that it is off topic. More like its a offshoot of the topic and just a observation.

You're right, it's militant trolling and has been repeated from page 1 of the thread. I complained about this logic several pages ago.

Thread is about GT5 vs Halo Reach. 1 game vs 1 game.

Not franchise vs franchise.

Not game vs 5 games or whatever other absurd comparison you make.

Understand?

No, implying I can't comphrehend threads is militant trolling. Lets not get personal shall we...like you seem to do with everybody you disagree with.

IP vs IP can be fair or unfair, depends on frequency of release. Not my fault if one had less releases. You can filter out criteria to get a specific result that pleases you, but it certainly isn't the full picture.

I call it as I see it. You've demonstrated a failure at a logical level as well as a retentive level. 

Franchise vs Franchise can be fair, but that isn't what the thread is about. Maybe read the title and the OP?



dsgrue3 said:
sales2099 said:
dsgrue3 said:
sales2099 said:

I didnt read the posts and I disagree that it is off topic. More like its a offshoot of the topic and just a observation.

You're right, it's militant trolling and has been repeated from page 1 of the thread. I complained about this logic several pages ago.

Thread is about GT5 vs Halo Reach. 1 game vs 1 game.

Not franchise vs franchise.

Not game vs 5 games or whatever other absurd comparison you make.

Understand?

No, implying I can't comphrehend threads is militant trolling. Lets not get personal shall we...like you seem to do with everybody you disagree with.

IP vs IP can be fair or unfair, depends on frequency of release. Not my fault if one had less releases. You can filter out criteria to get a specific result that pleases you, but it certainly isn't the full picture.

I call it as I see it. You've demonstrated a failure at a logical level as well as a retentive level. 

Franchise vs Franchise can be fair, but that isn't what the thread is about. Maybe read the title and the OP?

You can see it, but calling it can be trolling if its personal. Learn to hold your tongue, this can apply to real world situations too ;)

I allready discussed this through with Jay....maybe you should read that? I just made a observation, you sticking strictly to the thread paramteres......lol take it easy. Lighten up.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Let's just compare the upcoming GT first weeks to Halo 4 first weeks. This will give an accurate illustration of brand power and popularity. That way GT won't be bundled out the ass and artificially inflated sales data will not be an issue.



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sales2099 said:

You can see it, but calling it can be trolling if its personal. Learn to hold your tongue, this can apply to real world situations too ;)

I allready discussed this through with Jay....maybe you should read that? I just made a observation, you sticking strictly to the thread paramteres......lol take it easy. Lighten up.

It's trolling to call someone out on their bullshit? I think not.

I seem to do this time and time again with you; maybe invest some time in a library.



dsgrue3 said:
sales2099 said:

You can see it, but calling it can be trolling if its personal. Learn to hold your tongue, this can apply to real world situations too ;)

I allready discussed this through with Jay....maybe you should read that? I just made a observation, you sticking strictly to the thread paramteres......lol take it easy. Lighten up.

It's trolling to call someone out on their bullshit? I think not.

I seem to do this time and time again with you; maybe invest some time in a library.

When its personal, it is. Counter my points, not make passive aggressive shots at my inteligence. That tells me a fair bit about you.

Yes, I will walk into a library, pick a random aisle, and then a random book. Ill sit down and read it. Thanks for the tip. Were done here.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

kowenicki said:
dsgrue3 said:

You're right, it's militant trolling and has been repeated from page 1 of the thread. I complained about this logic several pages ago.

Thread is about GT5 vs Halo Reach. 1 game vs 1 game.

Not franchise vs franchise.

Not game vs 5 games or whatever other absurd comparison you make.

Understand?

No it isn't. The op actually asks if it will surpass halo3

my main gripe is that it's a pointless comparison.

the correct response to this thread is.... And?

 

If it passes halo3 then that is thread worthy.  

And that would continue to be 1 game vs 1 game; an equal comparison - Halo 3 vs GT5.

I don't see how it is pointless to compare 2 great selling games, but to each his/her own.



kowenicki said:

No it isn't. The op actually asks if it will surpass halo3

my main gripe is that it's a pointless comparison.

the correct response to this thread is.... And?

 

If it passes halo3 then that is thread worthy.  


Uhh...have you considered the fact that GT5 and Reach released around the same time (holiday 2010), and is thus a more accurate comparison of which is bigger? There's a reason you don't compare the lifetime sales of a newly released game versus a game that's been out for several years longer, unless you align launches. 

In fact, I remember PLENTY of threads back in the day predicting which would sell more between GT5 and Reach. They were quite huge. I can bring them up if you'd like. You probably posted in them, too.



Ji99saw said:
Let's just compare the upcoming GT first weeks to Halo 4 first weeks. This will give an accurate illustration of brand power and popularity. That way GT won't be bundled out the ass and artificially inflated sales data will not be an issue.

Halo is the guaranteed winner going by that. You have to give the GT time to sell because Halo is more front loaded than GT is.

 

but Halo 4 is most likely going to sell more than GT6 anyways because the PS4 is going to hit