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Even the 3DS still is not selling very well here (sub 130k this year, perhaps down again year over year) even with Luigi's Mansion 2 and other solid releases and a much deeper library overall.

Wii U is notably a disaster.

Nintendo has lost the support of the biggest Western publisher in EA. Not even the N64 or GameCube did that.

They have really no big Western studio IPs, they have Retro/Next Level/Monster Games, but basically all these studios are allowed to work on are Japanese Nintendo I.P. that the main EAD group is too busy to work on themselves.

Does the fact that Nintendo really has invested nothing into Western IPs alienated them from the Western market after the Wii Sports/Fit/Brain Training crazes wore off?

Even in the 90s and early 2000s we'd see things like Killer Instinct, GoldenEye, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron I-III, NBA Courtside, Banjo-Kazooie, Eternal Darkness, Excitebike 64, etc. from the Western studios.

Can Nintendo continue as a major player in the Western market just relying on Japanese IP?



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Nintendo has lost the support of YouTubers - that is certain.



And soon 360 will > Wii in NA. I'd say: A resounding yes. They haven't been good in Europe either for a while

nintendo is still a very well known name. its still the console of choice for parents who want to bring a gaming console for their kids. the problem with the WiiU is that nintendo tried to sell its console to a demographic that simply doesnt care about nintendo cosnoles, and nintendo has no idea how to make games for them

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Soundwave said:

 

Even the 3DS still is not selling very well here (sub 130k this year, perhaps down again year over year) even with Luigi's Mansion 2 and other solid releases and a much deeper library overall.

Wii U is notably a disaster.

Nintendo has lost the support of the biggest Western publisher in EA. Not even the N64 or GameCube did that.

They have really no big Western studio IPs, they have Retro/Next Level/Monster Games, but basically all these studios are allowed to work on are Japanese Nintendo I.P. that the main EAD group is too busy to work on themselves.

Does the fact that Nintendo really has invested nothing into Western IPs alienated them from the Western market after the Wii Sports/Fit/Brain Training crazes wore off?

Even in the 90s and early 2000s we'd see things like Killer Instinct, GoldenEye, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron I-III, NBA Courtside, Banjo-Kazooie, Eternal Darkness, Excitebike 64, etc. from the Western studios.

Can Nintendo continue as a major player in the Western market just relying on Japanese IP?

Not according to Ubisoft.

Nice job claiming the 3DS is selling so poorly that Nintendo has "lost" North America... while it's actually the market leader by a wide margin.

No, Nintendo hasn't "lost" North America.



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Never underestimate the power of Mario.

I'll wait for 3D Mario and Mario Kart to come out. If neither of those do anything significant for the Wii U we can pretty much say the Wii U will share the same fate as the N64 and GC. Those games saved the 3DS and I imaging something similar will happen to the Wii U.



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the_dengle said:
Soundwave said:

 

Even the 3DS still is not selling very well here (sub 130k this year, perhaps down again year over year) even with Luigi's Mansion 2 and other solid releases and a much deeper library overall.

Wii U is notably a disaster.

Nintendo has lost the support of the biggest Western publisher in EA. Not even the N64 or GameCube did that.

They have really no big Western studio IPs, they have Retro/Next Level/Monster Games, but basically all these studios are allowed to work on are Japanese Nintendo I.P. that the main EAD group is too busy to work on themselves.

Does the fact that Nintendo really has invested nothing into Western IPs alienated them from the Western market after the Wii Sports/Fit/Brain Training crazes wore off?

Even in the 90s and early 2000s we'd see things like Killer Instinct, GoldenEye, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron I-III, NBA Courtside, Banjo-Kazooie, Eternal Darkness, Excitebike 64, etc. from the Western studios.

Can Nintendo continue as a major player in the Western market just relying on Japanese IP?

Not according to Ubisoft.

Nice job claiming the 3DS is selling so poorly that Nintendo has "lost" North America... while it's actually the market leader by a wide margin.

No, Nintendo hasn't "lost" North America.


Sub-130k for the 3DS is poor sales, you can spin in however you want. Yes it's beating Vita, which is the lowest selling platform in the US from a major game company since maybe the Virtual Boy (I think even Dreamcast is ahead of this).

That's kind of like patting yourself on the back for beating a 1st grader in a basketball game.



the_dengle said:

Not according to Ubisoft.

Nice job claiming the 3DS is selling so poorly that Nintendo has "lost" North America... while it's actually the market leader by a wide margin.

No, Nintendo hasn't "lost" North America.


nintendo hasnt lost america in the handheld market for sure. 3DS isnt selling poorly, though it isnt selling as much as nintendo would want. on the home console market it kind of seems that nintendo has lost major ground withen the past 2 and half years. 

an interesting thing though is that nintendo's marketshare in your link is more than Sony's and MS's combined. so its more than clear that they still have a strong presence



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April was a terrible month for everyone. The repeated sight of primarily Japan-only titles in the top 10 each week is a sign of that.Also that 130K figure is from Microsoft who doesn't include handhelds. It is possible that the 3DS to surpassed it in April. Though likely not by much

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Selling sub-130k after an $80 price drop, 3 major Mario games, Zelda: OoT 3D, Kid Icarus, Kingdom Hearts, Epic Mickey, Lego City, Resident Evil (x2), Monster Hunter Tri, Luigi's Mansion 2, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, etc. etc. not to mention a new model revision.

Is problematic. It's a 2 year old platform, it should be a beast in its prime right now, instead its winded behind the 7 year old XBox 360 that's headed for the retirement home.

That's a big problem.

Wii U ... is just a trainwreck.