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Farsala said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Why so many people thought this?

Just look at Platinum or Emerald sales... Pokémon USUM never had a chance to become the best selling game of the year.

It's Pokemon in Japan with a massive install base.

People keep saying how impressive Zelda, Splatoon 2, and SMO is on such a small install base. Figure Pokemon on an install base 10 times as big could easily make top game.

Is not like only because is Pokémon it will always sells billions. A third version (or two new version of the same game like Black/White2) never sold as good as usual Pokémon games. USUM was not gonna be different.

Last edited by Ryng - on 11 November 2017

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Ryng_Tolu said:
Farsala said:

It's Pokemon in Japan with a massive install base.

People keep saying how impressive Zelda, Splatoon 2, and SMO is on such a small install base. Figure Pokemon on an install base 10 times as big could easily make top game.

They sold very well and in fact could probably even be the top game of 2017 if released now.

But it doesn't matter, those are on different systems and released a long time ago.



Farsala said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

They sold very well and in fact could probably even be the top game of 2017 if released now.

But it doesn't matter, those are on different systems and released a long time ago.

The point is that the 3rd version or direct sequels of mainline Pokemon games have traditionally sold like 40-50% of the original pair.



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Farsala said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

They sold very well and in fact could probably even be the top game of 2017 if released now.

But it doesn't matter, those are on different systems and released a long time ago.

But they always sold way less than the rispective game.

[2010] Pokémon White/Black = 4.966.737 (first week 2.557.779)
[2012] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.919.977 (first week 1.561.738) / Drop = 41% yearly ; 39% first week

[2006] Pokémon Diamont/Pearl = 4.361.495  ( 1.588.734 first week )
[2008] Pokémon Platinum = 2.231.765  (first week 963.273) / Drop = 49% yearly ; 39% first week

 

Pokémon MS sold 3.25 million in 2016 at retail... use a similar drop that the third version (or 2 new version of the same game) of Pokémon had, and you can see how Pokémon USUM never had a chance to become the best selling game of the year, not when Dragon Quest sold over 2 million only the first week.



zorg1000 said:
Farsala said:

They sold very well and in fact could probably even be the top game of 2017 if released now.

But it doesn't matter, those are on different systems and released a long time ago.

The point is that the 3rd version or direct sequels of mainline Pokemon games have traditionally sold like 40-50% of the original pair.

I know this, but 50% of a ton of sales is still significant. Right now it is not trending towards that, but who knows. IIRC Pokemon Sun and Moon is over 3.8m.

Ryng_Tolu said:
Farsala said:

They sold very well and in fact could probably even be the top game of 2017 if released now.

But it doesn't matter, those are on different systems and released a long time ago.

But they always sold way less than the rispective game.

[2010] Pokémon White/Black = 4.966.737 (first week 2.557.779)
[2012] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.919.977 (first week 1.561.738) / Drop = 41% yearly ; 39% first week

[2006] Pokémon Diamont/Pearl = 4.361.495  ( 1.588.734 first week )
[2008] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.231.765  (first week 963.273) / Drop = 49% yearly ; 39% first week

 

Pokémon MS sold 3.25 million in 2016 at retail... use a similar drop that Platinum and Emeral had, and you can see how Pokémon USUM never had a chance to become the best selling game of the year, not when Dragon Quest sold over 2 million only the first week.

Being honest, I expected lower sales of DQXI for both PS4 and 3DS versions from the start. So I expected Pokemon to be a contender, but clearly not the case. However my original post realized this and highlights the fact that it wont even be close to the top Nintendo game of the year like one would expect of pokemon. And like I said above, it isn't trending to be 50% of S&M atm.



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Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:

The point is that the 3rd version or direct sequels of mainline Pokemon games have traditionally sold like 40-50% of the original pair.

I know this, but 50% of a ton of sales is still significant. Right now it is not trending towards that, but who knows. IIRC Pokemon Sun and Moon is over 3.8m.

Ryng_Tolu said:

But they always sold way less than the rispective game.

[2010] Pokémon White/Black = 4.966.737 (first week 2.557.779)
[2012] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.919.977 (first week 1.561.738) / Drop = 41% yearly ; 39% first week

[2006] Pokémon Diamont/Pearl = 4.361.495  ( 1.588.734 first week )
[2008] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.231.765  (first week 963.273) / Drop = 49% yearly ; 39% first week

 

Pokémon MS sold 3.25 million in 2016 at retail... use a similar drop that Platinum and Emeral had, and you can see how Pokémon USUM never had a chance to become the best selling game of the year, not when Dragon Quest sold over 2 million only the first week.

Being honest, I expected lower sales of DQXI for both PS4 and 3DS versions from the start. So I expected Pokemon to be a contender, but clearly not the case. However my original post realized this and highlights the fact that it wont even be close to the top Nintendo game of the year like one would expect of pokemon. And like I said above, it isn't trending to be 50% of S&M atm.

S/M did about 3.3 million in 2016 so following the 40-50% trend would be about 1.5 million give or take for US/UM in 2017.



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Farsala said: 

 

Ryng_Tolu said:

But they always sold way less than the rispective game.

[2010] Pokémon White/Black = 4.966.737 (first week 2.557.779)
[2012] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.919.977 (first week 1.561.738) / Drop = 41% yearly ; 39% first week

[2006] Pokémon Diamont/Pearl = 4.361.495  ( 1.588.734 first week )
[2008] Pokémon White2/Black2 = 2.231.765  (first week 963.273) / Drop = 49% yearly ; 39% first week

 

Pokémon MS sold 3.25 million in 2016 at retail... use a similar drop that Platinum and Emeral had, and you can see how Pokémon USUM never had a chance to become the best selling game of the year, not when Dragon Quest sold over 2 million only the first week.

Being honest, I expected lower sales of DQXI for both PS4 and 3DS versions from the start. So I expected Pokemon to be a contender, but clearly not the case. However my original post realized this and highlights the fact that it wont even be close to the top Nintendo game of the year like one would expect of pokemon. And like I said above, it isn't trending to be 50% of S&M atm.

Even if Dragon Quest only had a 1.5 million first week, which should have been easy the worst scenario, it was still clearly gonna outsell Pokémon, expecially considering Pokémon will only account for less than 2 months of the year compared to half year of DQ.

Oh, this, and also the fact that Splatoon 2 was underrated as fuck, but well what i have to say, i always expected insane performance for Spaltoon 2, sooooo yeah it was never impossible for Splatoon 2 to outsell Pokémon USUM this year... will be a very close one.

 

Oh, and for the COMG perfore, right there is expected for Pokémon USUM to have a better ratio compared to USUM, first because COMG ratio become better every year, and second, because this time the double pack has a way bigger ratio. The drop won't be as hard as COMG show.



 



Oh, Xenoblade 2's standard edition it out of the chart ;_;
Pokemon US/UM finally doing like a Pokemon game should be doing on its last days.



Pokémon killed it. I think breaking into the 700p will be a good finish for such an under-hyped Pokémon game.

I wish Xenoblade started picking up pace though :'c