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Viktor on 20 September 2016
Boutros said:
The lack of games like World of Final Fantasy and The Last Guardian is definitely disappointing but honestly Monster Hunter Stories' performance should be up there amongst the most disappointing. Despite not being a mainline entry it looks like a huge effort and perhaps an even bigger one than the main games. I have no idea why it's not performing better. It's really weird to think it might not beat Monster Hunter Diary (PSP) which was a much cheaper effort.

My best guess is that pre-order incentives at other stores are eating away sales at COMG but then again it might not have that big of an impact. Still the ratio should be good. But even 2000:1 would give a rather weak performance. Anyone has any hindsight?

We have a slight idea what SQEX´s expectations are. Considering Final Fantasy Explorers sold 300k-400k units in Japan with no follow-up and  that the Bravely Second producer went on working in SQEXs new studio on Setsuna, that its sales are even worse surely wasn´t intended from the get go. World of Final Fantasy is a JRPG with seemingly good production values, this game not even charting in comg almost one month before launch is quite bad if we take into consideration how the mentioned games performances were judged by SQEX.

Monster Hunter Stories is a welcome experiment but gameplay and in aestetics there is little in common with what MH fans are looking for besides the use of the IP and unlike FF the aestetics have been pretty consistent in the mainline series overall. MHDiaries was a product of its time, launched at the peak of MHs popularity and surely not the norm, proofen by the most recent MHDiaries spinoff release. I guess it will at the very least sell decently.



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WC4Life on 20 September 2016
Kresnik said:

It's just, we knew about Dragon Quest Heroes 2 so quickly after the first.  Omega Force are an absolute factory when it comes to producing games too, whereas I think DQB was an internal Square-Enix project?

It's possible though.  It's just a number of franchises that were 200k+ (Miku; SAO; Toukiden) aren't going to reach it going forward, so it needs to be a really big game and preferrably exclusive.  Vita just isn't getting those anymore.  Plus games that should be performing better (World of Final Fantasy) aren't.

Still, it's probably got a fair few 100k+ games left.

Maybe S-E learned not to announce sequels too early from DQH2. Combined with the current situation, there is a lot of games coming already so announcing "bigger" game like DQB2 would cannibalize the smaller ones, for example World of Final Fantasy needs all the attention it can get at the moment. Then there is the worldwide release of DQB which S-E wants to push.

Yea, it's sad how those franchises which already seemed to have a solid foundation to build on, just went bomba (exaggeration but you get it) or are heading there. World of Final Fantasy is actually pretty telling, Vita is just too risky.



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Dr.Vita on 20 September 2016

Good day Sword Art Online!
World of Final Fantasy in 2 days?




Dr.Vita talks about Playstation Vita in 2016!
Playstation Vita Media Create Sales (2014 vs 2015 vs 2016)
Playstation Vita Japan Retail Software Sales (2013 vs 2014 vs 2015 + 2015 LTD Edition)
Prediction: Nothing will outsell PSP anymore (except Playstation home consoles)

Swordmasterman on 20 September 2016
Slarvax said:
BraLoD said:
So... when is Persona 6 coming?

Coming for the PS6 Trinity in 2026.

They will launch Persona 5 Golden Fes before that.



darthdevidem01 on 20 September 2016

XV strikes back with a +2 on Monday. With this XV beats its previous pre-order record of 243 established a few days ago and matches both XIII-2 & LR for their respective days.



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Teeqoz on 20 September 2016

Boutros, you know GT Sport was delayed to q1 2017 like a month ago? :-p



Kerotan on 20 September 2016
Teeqoz said:
Boutros, you know GT Sport was delayed to q1 2017 like a month ago? :-p

In fairness it's hard to keep up with all the delays these days! 



outlawauron on 20 September 2016
Viktor said:
Boutros said:
The lack of games like World of Final Fantasy and The Last Guardian is definitely disappointing but honestly Monster Hunter Stories' performance should be up there amongst the most disappointing. Despite not being a mainline entry it looks like a huge effort and perhaps an even bigger one than the main games. I have no idea why it's not performing better. It's really weird to think it might not beat Monster Hunter Diary (PSP) which was a much cheaper effort.

My best guess is that pre-order incentives at other stores are eating away sales at COMG but then again it might not have that big of an impact. Still the ratio should be good. But even 2000:1 would give a rather weak performance. Anyone has any hindsight?

We have a slight idea what SQEX´s expectations are. Considering Final Fantasy Explorers sold 300k-400k units in Japan with no follow-up and  that the Bravely Second producer went on working in SQEXs new studio on Setsuna, that its sales are even worse surely wasn´t intended from the get go. World of Final Fantasy is a JRPG with seemingly good production values, this game not even charting in comg almost one month before launch is quite bad if we take into consideration how the mentioned games performances were judged by SQEX.

Monster Hunter Stories is a welcome experiment but gameplay and in aestetics there is little in common with what MH fans are looking for besides the use of the IP and unlike FF the aestetics have been pretty consistent in the mainline series overall. MHDiaries was a product of its time, launched at the peak of MHs popularity and surely not the norm, proofen by the most recent MHDiaries spinoff release. I guess it will at the very least sell decently.

I believe that World of FF has a better chance for the West to make a difference than Bravely Second and FF Explorers. 

I don't think Square has had a real successful spinoff since the first Bravely Default (mild success) or Theatrhythm (mild success).



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NateH on 20 September 2016
SpokenTruth said:
Jranation said:
Is this the first time Monster Hunter went like this?

Many of the spins offs have huge difference in pre-orders and sales compared to the main line series.  In fact, I don't think any have even comes close to main line numbers.

I believe the spin-off game Yo-kai Watch Busters sold better through its first ten weeks on the Japanese market than the mainline Yo-kai Watch 3 has during the same time frame this year.



Butcher2709 on 20 September 2016
outlawauron said:
Viktor said:

We have a slight idea what SQEX´s expectations are. Considering Final Fantasy Explorers sold 300k-400k units in Japan with no follow-up and  that the Bravely Second producer went on working in SQEXs new studio on Setsuna, that its sales are even worse surely wasn´t intended from the get go. World of Final Fantasy is a JRPG with seemingly good production values, this game not even charting in comg almost one month before launch is quite bad if we take into consideration how the mentioned games performances were judged by SQEX.

Monster Hunter Stories is a welcome experiment but gameplay and in aestetics there is little in common with what MH fans are looking for besides the use of the IP and unlike FF the aestetics have been pretty consistent in the mainline series overall. MHDiaries was a product of its time, launched at the peak of MHs popularity and surely not the norm, proofen by the most recent MHDiaries spinoff release. I guess it will at the very least sell decently.

I believe that World of FF has a better chance for the West to make a difference than Bravely Second and FF Explorers. 

I don't think Square has had a real successful spinoff since the first Bravely Default (mild success) or Theatrhythm (mild success).

Didnt Default break the 1M?