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Pachter has been dead wrong about Nintendo ever since the DS came out

 

http://malstrom.50webs.com/foolsparadise.htm 

 

But one journalist had enough. “Why are we listening to this guy? He is an idiot!”




The Industry was shocked. How could someone say such a thing?


The journalist explained himself: “Here's a guy who really should only be talking to the money people in the world. And yet Kotaku’s quoted him 17 times in the last couple of months. As if gamers care about investing in stock. Sheesh, there’re games to play! Thing is, there are dozens of interesting analysts out there. (Like Billy Pidgeon.) And Pachter’s suggestions can be specious. He wants people to buy stock in Electronic Arts when the thing’s trading 204 times earnings. That’s just crazy.

“I’m sick of seeing Pachter quoted in Kotaku. Maybe if Pachter is quiet for a while, I’ll feel differently. But since he’s so loud-mouthed and so ubiquitous, especially on Kotaku, he’s the VH1 Game Break Idiot of the Week.”

“Oh my…” someone gasped.

“He dared criticize the One Who Must Not Be Criticized.”

“Don’t worry guys. He obviously doesn’t mean it. He just secretly wishes he WAS Pachter and could have his job.”

“Yeah! That can be the only explanation. It’s not like anyone criticizes Pachter because they believe he is wrong. They criticize him because of hidden motives like jealousy and inferiority complexes.”

Pachter’s response was to grab a club and start pummeling the journalist into submission.

“Howard, I'd speak to you if you called, too. If you have a problem with what Kotaku prints, take it up with them. I think you're out of line attacking me personally because Kotaku finds what I have to say interesting. Maybe if you had something more interesting to say, you'd have as many readers as Kotaku . . . At least they're not jerks.”

The journalist held his hands up to defend himself as Pachter kept swinging at him. “Well, I have to say you're a jerk, too. You can't even read a blog and get the writer's name right. An analyst should pay attention to detail. Obviously, you don't.”

But Pachter kept swinging. “’Howard’ was a hybrid of "Harold" and "coward". It was intended to be humorous. Obviously, the attempt at humor failed And as a journalist, you should get your facts straight. I never called you a jerk, you inferred that. On the other hand, you called me an idiot, a jerk, and loud-mouthed. Please feel free to google my name and compare to the dozens of other interesting analysts. I have never called a blogger or a journalist; they call me. And somehow, by a ratio of something like 10:1, they find me interesting. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. I just find your ad hominem invective tiresome, quite offensive, and out of line. Again, if you ever want to speak, I'll take your call.”

As Pachter left the beaten body of the journalist, the journalist said, “I don't converse to people who make the egregious number of mistakes that you do in your prose. Those mistakes are indicative of a problem that's far greater and far deeper than words.”

The readers whispers, “Hey Mal, why did you bold what you did?”

“The major influence on Pachter is not business but politics. He is a political animal. Listen to how he uses a lawyer’s tongue. He claims he never called him a jerk, yet he did. Only a political mind would make such a technical legalistic differentiation. And, of course, he labels what the journalist said as ‘opinion’ to easily dismiss it, saying he ‘found’ what the journalist to say to be ‘ad hominem’ (as if Pachter didn’t go bonkers in his replies), and, my favorite, the implying that the journalist really wants to get Pachter quotes. If you check Pachter’s bio, sure enough, he went to law school and all.”

An investor nodded and said, “Hey guys. I'm an investor who has actually spoken with many buy and sell side analysts including Mr. Pachter at one point. In the video game investing world, we call him "Sideshow Pachter." The guy is the absolute biggest moron in the industry with likely the worst track record. That sentiment is shared by many company executives and his fellow analysts. In the last few years, doing the exact opposite of what he said would have done you better than actually following his advice. "Idiot" does not begin to describe how those of us in the market feel about this guy! He is a shameless turd whose only goal is being quoted by the clueless press.” (20)

The Industry discovered the beaten body of the journalist and gasped. “Quickly!” one said. “Damage control time!” cried another. “Get Gametrailers to do a special interview!” one said. “But wouldn’t it look obvious with just Pachter there?” “Hmm. Put in another analyst, one that doesn’t specify in video games. He won’t say much except just to praise Pachter as well.”



 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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Entroper said:

The Nintendo Seal of Quality for NES games was pretty meaningless. It basically meant that the developer had paid for a license to publish the game. There were some pretty awful NES games with the seal, and a handful of good, unlicensed games without it.


 You know it Tengen Tetris rocked regular tetris every day of the week.



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stranne said:

The perception that Wii games need more rigorous standards arises largely from vocal hardcore gamers who cannot, and do not want to, believe that a collection of mini-games is hammering their peccadillo du jour in the marketplace.

Ed Barton, Screen Digest


 



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Wii Seal of Quality? LOL.



>You arn't exactly the average person though. The average person doesn't look at reviews or anything.

I disagree wholeheartedly, at this day and age, with console that costs 300-500 bucks, are you HONESTLY going to tell me someone is going to throw out that much money without ANY research at all?



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CDiablo said:
Entroper said:

The Nintendo Seal of Quality for NES games was pretty meaningless. It basically meant that the developer had paid for a license to publish the game. There were some pretty awful NES games with the seal, and a handful of good, unlicensed games without it.


You know it Tengen Tetris rocked regular tetris every day of the week.


Hell yeah, coop Tetris baby.  Also, Super Sprint FTW!



Avinash_Tyagi said:

Pachter has been dead wrong about Nintendo ever since the DS came out

 

http://malstrom.50webs.com/foolsparadise.htm

 

But one journalist had enough. “Why are we listening to this guy? He is an idiot!”




The Industry was shocked. How could someone say such a thing?


The journalist explained himself: “Here's a guy who really should only be talking to the money people in the world. And yet Kotaku’s quoted him 17 times in the last couple of months. As if gamers care about investing in stock. Sheesh, there’re games to play! Thing is, there are dozens of interesting analysts out there. (Like Billy Pidgeon.) And Pachter’s suggestions can be specious. He wants people to buy stock in Electronic Arts when the thing’s trading 204 times earnings. That’s just crazy.

“I’m sick of seeing Pachter quoted in Kotaku. Maybe if Pachter is quiet for a while, I’ll feel differently. But since he’s so loud-mouthed and so ubiquitous, especially on Kotaku, he’s the VH1 Game Break Idiot of the Week.”

“Oh my…” someone gasped.

“He dared criticize the One Who Must Not Be Criticized.”

“Don’t worry guys. He obviously doesn’t mean it. He just secretly wishes he WAS Pachter and could have his job.”

“Yeah! That can be the only explanation. It’s not like anyone criticizes Pachter because they believe he is wrong. They criticize him because of hidden motives like jealousy and inferiority complexes.”

Pachter’s response was to grab a club and start pummeling the journalist into submission.

“Howard, I'd speak to you if you called, too. If you have a problem with what Kotaku prints, take it up with them. I think you're out of line attacking me personally because Kotaku finds what I have to say interesting. Maybe if you had something more interesting to say, you'd have as many readers as Kotaku . . . At least they're not jerks.”

The journalist held his hands up to defend himself as Pachter kept swinging at him. “Well, I have to say you're a jerk, too. You can't even read a blog and get the writer's name right. An analyst should pay attention to detail. Obviously, you don't.”

But Pachter kept swinging. “’Howard’ was a hybrid of "Harold" and "coward". It was intended to be humorous. Obviously, the attempt at humor failed And as a journalist, you should get your facts straight. I never called you a jerk, you inferred that. On the other hand, you called me an idiot, a jerk, and loud-mouthed. Please feel free to google my name and compare to the dozens of other interesting analysts. I have never called a blogger or a journalist; they call me. And somehow, by a ratio of something like 10:1, they find me interesting. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. I just find your ad hominem invective tiresome, quite offensive, and out of line. Again, if you ever want to speak, I'll take your call.”

As Pachter left the beaten body of the journalist, the journalist said, “I don't converse to people who make the egregious number of mistakes that you do in your prose. Those mistakes are indicative of a problem that's far greater and far deeper than words.”

The readers whispers, “Hey Mal, why did you bold what you did?”

“The major influence on Pachter is not business but politics. He is a political animal. Listen to how he uses a lawyer’s tongue. He claims he never called him a jerk, yet he did. Only a political mind would make such a technical legalistic differentiation. And, of course, he labels what the journalist said as ‘opinion’ to easily dismiss it, saying he ‘found’ what the journalist to say to be ‘ad hominem’ (as if Pachter didn’t go bonkers in his replies), and, my favorite, the implying that the journalist really wants to get Pachter quotes. If you check Pachter’s bio, sure enough, he went to law school and all.”

An investor nodded and said, “Hey guys. I'm an investor who has actually spoken with many buy and sell side analysts including Mr. Pachter at one point. In the video game investing world, we call him "Sideshow Pachter." The guy is the absolute biggest moron in the industry with likely the worst track record. That sentiment is shared by many company executives and his fellow analysts. In the last few years, doing the exact opposite of what he said would have done you better than actually following his advice. "Idiot" does not begin to describe how those of us in the market feel about this guy! He is a shameless turd whose only goal is being quoted by the clueless press.” (20)

The Industry discovered the beaten body of the journalist and gasped. “Quickly!” one said. “Damage control time!” cried another. “Get Gametrailers to do a special interview!” one said. “But wouldn’t it look obvious with just Pachter there?” “Hmm. Put in another analyst, one that doesn’t specify in video games. He won’t say much except just to praise Pachter as well.”




That was lame.  The author criticizes the "what" without understanding the "why."



Because the seal surely kept games like this:

 

this:

and this: 

 

 

from ever being on their respective systems. 



kingofwale said:
>You arn't exactly the average person though. The average person doesn't look at reviews or anything.

I disagree wholeheartedly, at this day and age, with console that costs 300-500 bucks, are you HONESTLY going to tell me someone is going to throw out that much money without ANY research at all?


 Most people don't buy consoles until they are under $200, c'mon you should know that if you are on this site



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Words Of Wisdom said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Pachter has been dead wrong about Nintendo ever since the DS came out

 

http://malstrom.50webs.com/foolsparadise.htm

 

But one journalist had enough. “Why are we listening to this guy? He is an idiot!”




The Industry was shocked. How could someone say such a thing?


The journalist explained himself: “Here's a guy who really should only be talking to the money people in the world. And yet Kotaku’s quoted him 17 times in the last couple of months. As if gamers care about investing in stock. Sheesh, there’re games to play! Thing is, there are dozens of interesting analysts out there. (Like Billy Pidgeon.) And Pachter’s suggestions can be specious. He wants people to buy stock in Electronic Arts when the thing’s trading 204 times earnings. That’s just crazy.

“I’m sick of seeing Pachter quoted in Kotaku. Maybe if Pachter is quiet for a while, I’ll feel differently. But since he’s so loud-mouthed and so ubiquitous, especially on Kotaku, he’s the VH1 Game Break Idiot of the Week.”

“Oh my…” someone gasped.

“He dared criticize the One Who Must Not Be Criticized.”

“Don’t worry guys. He obviously doesn’t mean it. He just secretly wishes he WAS Pachter and could have his job.”

“Yeah! That can be the only explanation. It’s not like anyone criticizes Pachter because they believe he is wrong. They criticize him because of hidden motives like jealousy and inferiority complexes.”

Pachter’s response was to grab a club and start pummeling the journalist into submission.

“Howard, I'd speak to you if you called, too. If you have a problem with what Kotaku prints, take it up with them. I think you're out of line attacking me personally because Kotaku finds what I have to say interesting. Maybe if you had something more interesting to say, you'd have as many readers as Kotaku . . . At least they're not jerks.”

The journalist held his hands up to defend himself as Pachter kept swinging at him. “Well, I have to say you're a jerk, too. You can't even read a blog and get the writer's name right. An analyst should pay attention to detail. Obviously, you don't.”

But Pachter kept swinging. “’Howard’ was a hybrid of "Harold" and "coward". It was intended to be humorous. Obviously, the attempt at humor failed And as a journalist, you should get your facts straight. I never called you a jerk, you inferred that. On the other hand, you called me an idiot, a jerk, and loud-mouthed. Please feel free to google my name and compare to the dozens of other interesting analysts. I have never called a blogger or a journalist; they call me. And somehow, by a ratio of something like 10:1, they find me interesting. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. I just find your ad hominem invective tiresome, quite offensive, and out of line. Again, if you ever want to speak, I'll take your call.”

As Pachter left the beaten body of the journalist, the journalist said, “I don't converse to people who make the egregious number of mistakes that you do in your prose. Those mistakes are indicative of a problem that's far greater and far deeper than words.”

The readers whispers, “Hey Mal, why did you bold what you did?”

“The major influence on Pachter is not business but politics. He is a political animal. Listen to how he uses a lawyer’s tongue. He claims he never called him a jerk, yet he did. Only a political mind would make such a technical legalistic differentiation. And, of course, he labels what the journalist said as ‘opinion’ to easily dismiss it, saying he ‘found’ what the journalist to say to be ‘ad hominem’ (as if Pachter didn’t go bonkers in his replies), and, my favorite, the implying that the journalist really wants to get Pachter quotes. If you check Pachter’s bio, sure enough, he went to law school and all.”

An investor nodded and said, “Hey guys. I'm an investor who has actually spoken with many buy and sell side analysts including Mr. Pachter at one point. In the video game investing world, we call him "Sideshow Pachter." The guy is the absolute biggest moron in the industry with likely the worst track record. That sentiment is shared by many company executives and his fellow analysts. In the last few years, doing the exact opposite of what he said would have done you better than actually following his advice. "Idiot" does not begin to describe how those of us in the market feel about this guy! He is a shameless turd whose only goal is being quoted by the clueless press.” (20)

The Industry discovered the beaten body of the journalist and gasped. “Quickly!” one said. “Damage control time!” cried another. “Get Gametrailers to do a special interview!” one said. “But wouldn’t it look obvious with just Pachter there?” “Hmm. Put in another analyst, one that doesn’t specify in video games. He won’t say much except just to praise Pachter as well.”


That was lame.  The author criticizes the "what" without understanding the "why."


 You mean that he critisized the moronic analysts who thought Wii would lose?  The what and the why was that they had no idea what they were talking about, and Pachter is a moron who hasn't been right about the Wii or the DS since day one



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)