pokoko said:
Wow, so you want to be that way over a gaming article? Okay, go for it, if it's that important to you. First, let's start with the silly little attempt by the author to paint "the hardcore gamer" as some kind of evil monster, which is completely childish. He's just trying to create an "us versus them" dichotomy, and anyone buying it is just fooling themselves. They same is true for the "it's everyone's fault but Nintendo's" mantra I see all over the place. That aside, though, let me ask you one thing: is it possible to both lose and to gain? Is 10-2+5=x valid? Is it possible that the Wii both lost and created core gamers? If so, then how can the author prove that Nintendo lost no one? It's silly to even try. It's very possible that Iwata was right, that the Wii did lose former customers, even if it created new ones. I know it's crazy to suggest that Iwata might know more about it than the author but who can say? This whole thing is a mess of meaninglessness no matter what kind of convoluted logic you want to try. Comparing sales on the Wii, which was a huge success, to sales on the GameCube and N64, which sold poorly, makes no practical sense. It just comes across as someone trying to prop up their hurt feelings by any means possible. You're saying that I misunderstood what the author intended but I think that you just couldn't comprehend what I was saying, which is that what the author's point is immaterial. He's tailoring arguments to fit his facts. It's a waste of time. Seriously, though, if people want to believe that "the hardcore gamer" is some kind of boogie-man, that's awesome--hilarious, but awesome. Strangely, I know some hardcore gamers who own the Wii, which I guess should make the universe implode. |
1. I was just trying to help you out, since you seemed confused over some of the points of the article.
2. I agree that the author broadly paints hardcore gamers as bad person. I of course don't agree with this but there are hardcore gamers who think like this. The author should have reffered to them as "some" or "certain hardcore gamers". The author isn't trying to create a "us verse them mentalitiy" He's just trying to dispove the notion that the Wii lost the core gamer. This argument has been around on the internet for years. You honesly can't tell me you've never heard anyone say that the Wii is system for casual gamers and that Nintendo has lost the core market?
3.Yes, it's possible to lose and gain. in the Wii's case it obviously gained a larger core base then the Gamecube & N64 despite what it may have lost. The same thing could be saidof any console. The author is obviously reffering to the net difference. The facts are there, The Wii had a larger core audience then the Gamecube & N64.
4.Look it's not difficult. Nintendo sold more "core" games during the Wii's lifespan. How it that convoluted logic. Its common sense.If you want to disprove my point then then bring some facts of your own. Pleases how me how Mario Kart Wii sold less then Mario Kart 64 or Mario Kart Doubledash.
Comparing sales on the Wii, which was a huge success, to sales on the GameCube and N64, which sold poorly, makes no practical sense.
Yes it does, The Wii was more successful then any of Nintendo's previous home consoles. Logically this means it sold more games. This includes core games like Smash Bros. and Zelda. These core games sold more on the Wii then gamecube or N64 which means the Wii had a larger "core" audience. Which is the point the article is making.
By comparing sales of previous systems and games we can see if more or less consumers purchase the product. That's pretty much what we do on this site. For example we compare the sales of previous Zelda games to the newest Zelda game. This will show us if the game has grown a larger or smaller fanbase. If Super Mario Bros. Ultimate sells 10million copies and the sequel Super Mario Ultimatum sells 6million copies then the fanbase has lowered conversely if it sells more the fanbase has grown. How does that not make pratical sense?
5. What's funny is how you're dancing around the facts. You have no facts to back up your point and are simply presenting a straw man argument. The main point the article is making is that Nintendo's "core" base grew larger. There are facts to prove it. You mentioning that author paints hardcore gamers unfairly doesn't disprove his point. The author could be a terrible person but if He presents facts then he presents the facts.
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