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Forums - Gaming Discussion - WiiU and Vita owners, can we all agree that both consoles are similarly disastrous and move on?

 

Can we make peace?

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I would wait until competition comes out before I doom Wii U.

Sure it's not looking good for it right now, but wait to see how 720 and PS4 do its first year before I jump on that.

Meanwhile Vita already is facing its competitiors, so that's easier to say it can't recover.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
Zero999 said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

The Wii U has little to no chances of "selling well"?


No Wii Sports, no Wii Play, no Wii Fit, no 3D Mario, no Zelda, no Metroid, no Super Smash Bros., no Mario Party, no Animal Crossing and not even a Mario Kart title has arrived yet. And you are already certain that the Wii U has low chances of selling well?

That's nice, I guess.

I mean, if well means N64 numbers then it's possible. That's why I wrote "well" with quote marks. It's not like those franchises made the N64 or GC sell gangbusters. The Wii series is an uncertainty but we'll see.

And Vita also has chances of selling N64 numbers anyway.

 

What it comes down to is that we should stop fighting about these two beacuse they're both a disaster. Vita is a disaster. WiiU is a disaster.

vita is a disaster, it's 1 and a half year old and has no big game released or anounced yet.

wii u is six months old and is getting it's AAA titles on the next few months. wii u is definetely doing bad NOW, but it's no disaster. I can't wait for next box and ps4 to release and sell sub wii u numbers, then see if sony/micro fans will call them doomed.

Hey, if PS4 and Nextbox are a disaster I'll be the first to say it. Funny how you'd rather see the whole industry collapse than just your prefered console though.

what I want is irrelevant, I'm just saying what I think is going to happen.



rutea7 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Reading through this thread, I say it is time to break out the chalkboard.


If you mean list wars it doesn't work with Nintendo fans, all games suck if they're not Mario. So 100 games won't be impressive to them cause they'll just say they all suck.

Suuuure, flawless logic working here....



The sales numbers here are, at the very least, incorrect for the Wii U (Nintendo reported 3.06 million units sold within the first three months). Can't comment on the Vita.

At any rate, I would hold off on calling either one "disastrous" or "doomed" until we're at least a year into their life cycles. Remember, PS3 was selling worse than either of these within its first five months, and has now almost caught up to the 360.

Regardless, I would call the Wii U's situation much better at this point, simply because we know that sometime in the future (whenever Nintendo decides to get off their couch and do some work) the Wii U will have its share of good games. Pikmin 3, SSB4, a 3D Mario, a new Zelda, FE Crossover...all of these are games that have the potential to sell systems. The Vita doesn't really have that at the moment. The Wii U's situation will almost assuredly get better down the road (assuming Nintendo doesn't cancel everything), but the PS Vita...I dunno.



pokoko said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Fact remains though that the Vita is facing a much worse situation. Handhelds are expected to sell more units and end up with a much lower software tie ratio. Selling on par with Wii U hardware-wise is not a good sign for the system. And ending up selling N64 numbers would be a disaster for a handheld.

I'm sorry, but that's complete sophistry.  What are your sources for "handhelds are expected to sell more"?  If the Vita was $99, sure, but its price tag isn't far off from the Wii U.  Publishers and developers have also been very happy with software sales on the Vita.  There might not be that many systems out there but the people who own them buy games, enough that Ubisoft is happy, Japanese publishers have been happy, and indie developers are telling other indie developers that the Vita is the place to be.  Muramasa Rebirth has already hit 100k units on the Vita.  Is the Wii U as much of a success for third party game sales?

It seems like you're just raising expectations for the Vita and lowering them for the Wii U for your own purposes.


By "sell more units" I meant sell more units per software. Poor/misleading wording on my part.



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who would expect the vita to out perform a nintendo console though,not sure whats happened to the WiiU sales following the massively successful generation winner the Wii,being judged like the PS3 did against the PS2,it's looking to come up a bit short,it will probably do better than half the fanbase though better than the PS3 hopefully for nintendo



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Mr Khan said:
I've said it before: the major difference is that the Wii U will get top-tier 1st party support. Given Sony's record with the PSP, Vita likely won't.

The difference will be made blindingly apparent by E3, where Wii U's heavy hitters land, and Vita will be a very clear afterthought to PS4 in Sony's setup.

While that's true, it's only half of the picture.  It's more complicated than that.

The Vita is struggling, but it's against a rival that had already found its groove before the Vita was even released.  The Wii U, on the other hand, is struggling against old systems, with it's same-gen rivals releasing later this year.  Those rivals are going to steal all the publicity and will probably blow the Wii U out of the water in terms of big third-party releases.

Yes, there are positives in the Wii U's situation but there are also negatives to consider.  



pokoko said:
Mr Khan said:
I've said it before: the major difference is that the Wii U will get top-tier 1st party support. Given Sony's record with the PSP, Vita likely won't.

The difference will be made blindingly apparent by E3, where Wii U's heavy hitters land, and Vita will be a very clear afterthought to PS4 in Sony's setup.

While that's true, it's only half of the picture.  It's more complicated than that.

The Vita is struggling, but it's against a rival that had already found its groove before the Vita was even released.  The Wii U, on the other hand, is struggling against old systems, with it's same-gen rivals releasing later this year.  Those rivals are going to steal all the publicity and will probably blow the Wii U out of the water in terms of big third-party releases.

Yes, there are positives in the Wii U's situation but there are also negatives to consider.  

Oh, i'm not saying Nintendo can't blow it and make GC-type versions of their big first party games (semi-experimental stuff like Wind Waker or Mario Sunshine), but if Nintendo gets it right, then what the competition is up to shouldn't especially matter. You're not going to get Mario Kart on the PS4 or Fusion (?) no matter how much hype they run in on.

Nintendo could also screw up the promotion of said games, too, but if they really are determined to at least get the device in a respectable position, they should easily get at least their fair share this run.



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both are performing like crap. But I think consoles are more mainstream than handhelds, so have your own conclusion ;)



Heavenly_King said:
both are performing like crap. But I think consoles are more mainstream than handhelds, so have your own conclusion ;)

Well, now I'm going to defend the WiiU and say that I'm pretty sure handhelds tend to sell better. Until this gen at least. So Vita is still doing shitty.



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