I agree. Both are selling so horribly that it isn't even worth making up excuses for them. Sale will probably improve, but they will never compete with the other consoles.

I think we're just going to have to wait and see, no-one really knows what Nintendo and Sony are going to pull out for the systems.
I personally believe that both systems will baseline at about 50-100% more this time next year (about 45-60k per week). I think this will happen because Nintendo will have at least 2-3 of its popular core franchises out for the WiiU and the Vita will have had a western pricecut alongside maybe a couple of big hitters (say another assassin's creed and FF type-0 for example).
The one thing I can guarrantee is I will definitely have both systems by this time next year :P

A thing to consider: people referring to the 3DS-turnaround and hope that will happen for WiiU. That is fair. But remember what was the consequence of the emergency-game-development for 3DS: a game-drought for WiiU. Iwata already confirmed, that many WiiU-projects were understaffed. If they now set an emergency-dev-focus on WiiU, it might lead to another game-drought on 3DS. Not that bad at this moment, as 3DS seems mostly saved, but not good either.

I won't start arguments with you cause you are one of the fans ppl can't argue with, its pointless, gets nowhere.

We don't have the same tastes in games so I don't care. But can you honestly say a new IP wouldn't b nice?

I never voice my opinions on what Nintendo is doing right now in these forums, I discussed them only with some people privately so as not to step on ppls toes since these forums have been on edge lately. But some posts lately are like... Increasingly repetitive and annoying.

Don't really see how attacking Vita can make Wii u look better since they aren't direct competitors but I seems to be an outlet for some of the posters here. They are both doing poorly, who has a better chance of recovering in the future is irrelevant, none of these systems is doomed.

Stop being all bitter up in this thread.

Most posters gave their reason as to why they think WiiU has a better future than Vita. You're acting like everyone is just coming in and making hit and run Vita troll posts or something.

Also,  who has a better chance of recovering isn't irrelevant. It's a perfectly legitimate discussion point.

Who's all bitter? I don't think my posts were any more bitter and I don't have a history of claiming systems are doomed unlike certain posters here. I honestly don't believe Nintendo will have those titles ready for the holidays after they said they are having trouble adapting to HD development but if they do come out I believe the Wii u will see a great boost in sales.

I just don't think its realistic to think every gamer wants the same thing from a system.

I have a Wii, but don't have a WiiU yet. I'm a total sucker for 3d Mario games and Donkey Kong. I love Bayonetta and my brother loves Zelda. A combo of all or most of those games will be the trick to me getting a WiiU. I'd like to think there are a lot of others out there also waiting for those.

I have a Vita. Uncharted, Resistance and Wipeout were the lures for me (yes Resistance was a turd). Sony doesn't have Mario and Donkey Kong to suck people in, but Killzone is looking exciting. Something like a GTA or God of War or even an Infamous and I think it'll at least do steady numbers in the near future.

ps3 and xbox 360 did sub wii u numbers, did that cause an industry crash?

They never had weekly sales as low as the Wii U.  Also there was the Wii, and the DS/PSP were doing better than the 3DS/Vita.  In your world we'd have 3 consoles doing less than 100k combined next April.

only 2. wii u will be selling much better starting Q3/4 2013.