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Madden a NO GO for Wii U this year. EA reaffirms it still has a "Strong Partnership" with Nintendo.

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Why does EA hate Nintendo so much? WHY?
Is it seriously because they refused to put Origin on Wii U? Because that's ridiculous!



     
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Don't know many Wii owners who looked forward to Madden anyway. I see some are saying Mario will save Nintendo again. They may be right, but at one point or another people are going to want to see more than a one trick pony. Nintendo needs to work on new and innovative IPs and not new and innovative ways to make the same old IPs seem new.



Yakuzaice said:
Conegamer said:
This thread is already making my head hurt. You can't write off the Wii U yet, because as we saw with the 3DS, Nintendo can allow it to bounce back. And it's not the same time as the N64 and GCN days now, everyone knows Mario and the such like. They sell by the bucketload regardless of what system they're on.

But this isn't what the thread was about. So all I'll say on that regard is it would just be better for EA to be honest with Nintendo really, but when the next-gen versions of Madden, FIFA etc. sell around 200-300k maximum, what will they say then?

Why exactly do you think the next gen Madden and FIFA will max out at 200-300k when the first Madden on the PS3 and 360 did over a million combined?

Even on the Vita it has done over 250k.  I'm not sure how much of that is from the bundle, but if it is less than 150k, then you are basically saying one version of next gen Madden might sell worse than the Vita version.  Fifa even did 620k on the Vita across the two releases last year.

I expect a similar announcement about FIFA sometime soon considering the Wii U is doing even worse in Europe.  When their games can't even hit 100k, and no other third party is seeing success on the platform, why would they continue supporting it?

Some people seem to think that just because WiiU doesn't sell well and because it can't sell 3rd party games that somehow that will be true for other next-gen consoles as well. Not going to happen. It's in the same vein as when people want a gaming market crash just because Nintendo is given the cold-shoulder by a few 3rd parties.



Mr Khan said:
hinch said:
Mr Khan said:
Sal.Paradise said:
I'm surprised they're not at least doing a roster update..

Yeah, that really shows the degree to which EA is trying to kill the Wii U. I mean, how little would it cost them just to chuck some new rosters into the existing Wii U Madden 13 (which itself was just a roster update of Madden 12, unlike the PS3 and 360 versions!) and push it out the door as a new product? They'd at least clock 200,000 units, almost pure profit

 

No, EA's leadership still has to be hopping mad.

200k? Not happening.

I'm not sure Madden 13 (Wii U) could even reach 100k, nevermind twice that amount. Especially in Novemeber when the game will be launching on next gen consoles, along side the PS3 and 360 versions.

Madden NFL 13 (Wii U) 30k retail.

Also to put things into perspective Mass Effect 3 (Wii U) 50k retail.

And you wonder why EA has dropped support or the console.

30k because it wasn't simul-launched, like the abysmal performance of the 3DS game.

Simultaneous launch on a console that's had a year to build install base, and you could at least get somewhere

hell, we can also go lower on profitability thresholds, if we're talking about a simple name change/rerelease.

Botch up launch or not, those number are terrible. The install base might not be there (yet), but I'm not convinced that many people will pick up the game for the Wii U. The Wii sold quite a few madden's because of the HUGE install base and had the backing of casual gamers. In any case, it'll be a big risk for publishers like EA to push out a title on the Wii U hoping to gain a healthy sum when they're also launching the game for the PS4/720.



Yakuzaice said:
Conegamer said:
This thread is already making my head hurt. You can't write off the Wii U yet, because as we saw with the 3DS, Nintendo can allow it to bounce back. And it's not the same time as the N64 and GCN days now, everyone knows Mario and the such like. They sell by the bucketload regardless of what system they're on.

But this isn't what the thread was about. So all I'll say on that regard is it would just be better for EA to be honest with Nintendo really, but when the next-gen versions of Madden, FIFA etc. sell around 200-300k maximum, what will they say then?

Why exactly do you think the next gen Madden and FIFA will max out at 200-300k when the first Madden on the PS3 and 360 did over a million combined?

Even on the Vita it has done over 250k.  I'm not sure how much of that is from the bundle, but if it is less than 150k, then you are basically saying one version of next gen Madden might sell worse than the Vita version.  Fifa even did 620k on the Vita across the two releases last year.

I expect a similar announcement about FIFA sometime soon considering the Wii U is doing even worse in Europe.  When their games can't even hit 100k, and no other third party is seeing success on the platform, why would they continue supporting it?

third parties who put in effort do decently well.

So i guess that precludes EA anyway.



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KHlover said:
Otakumegane said:
I guess Nintendo really is banking on a Western AAA crash in the next years.

So are we going to get Mario football now?

That Mario football game for the Gamecube (Super Mario Strikers, I think) is the best football game I've played in the last decade, so I'm sure they would also come up with a great version of Handegg.

Nintendo won't do an american football game because it only has 1 market, the US, while regular football games sell everywhere.



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somewhat disappointing as I enjoy Madden games. At the same time I would be pissed of if it was a rebranded older version, like the current release.



 

 

echoesfromthepast said:

Why does EA hate Nintendo so much? WHY?
Is it seriously because they refused to put Origin on Wii U? Because that's ridiculous!

Its not. Nintendo and EA have never gotten along well historically. Even since the NES days, EA has always tried to find a way around supporting a Nintendo console. 



Mr Khan said:

third parties who put in effort do decently well.

So i guess that precludes EA anyway.

That didn't exactly help Need For Speed sales.  If I recall correctly the Vita version did more in the March NPD than the Wii U release.  I'm not sure if I'd say any third party release has done all that well so far.



burninmylight said:
Billjw said:
I'm pretty sure madden skipped the 64 a few times

Madden hasn't skipped Nintendo since the SNES's early years.

OT: More and more evidence that our suspicions of the fallout between Nintendo and EA are true. I was wondering if EA's CEO stepping down a couple of months ago might mean they'd take steps toward repairing that partnership, but I guess not.


Madden 64 came out a year after the 64 released and it didn't even have the NFL license.  So in fall of '96 there was no release of madden for nintendo