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Is the anti - Nextbox sentiment on the Internet ridiculous?

Yes, MS has yet to even a... 154 42.42%
 
Maybe 60 16.53%
 
No it is completely deserved 147 40.50%
 
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wfz on 29 April 2013
Carl2291 said:
The problem is that there is so much smoke, its hard to imagine there being no fire.

Every rumor Ive seen about it has been a negative rumor. When they actually reveal it I expect a bunch of stuff to be confirmed and a bunch of stuff to be refuted. Just dont let it get to you and wait for the chance to give out a "told ya so".


This pretty much sums it up. There have been a lot of shaky rumors piling on top of each other that sound very plausable from a company such as Microsoft, and it has people upset over the probability of those things actually happening. Until Microsoft can be forward and confirm that these negative rumors have false information, people will be upset (and they will be more upset if the rumors come true).

Welcome to the first step of understanding the human brain. You should pay more attention in your history classes. / snarky remark.



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Carl on 29 April 2013
Lostplanet22 said:

The problem is that not so long ago we saw articles how PS4 and nextbox will not play used games;... Now we know it was not true for PS4 people still believe it will be the case for nextbox...the question is do they really believe it or they want to believe it so they can troll about it?

Probably a 50/50 mix. Fortunately, I think its pretty obvious who is in which 50.

BenVTrigger said:

The ironic thing though is 90% of the people complaining about always online are people on internet forums.....who are constantly online.  Most of the people complaining have their Xboxs and PS3s hooked up to stable internet nearly all the time.

Now personally I hope the Next Xbox doesnt require an always online connection but who knows maybe the sheer amount of amazing things theyre adding to Xbox Live makes them require a connection. Thats my point is we dont know anything yet.  For all we know always online could be an incredible experience.  If you have a smartphone its always connected.  People dont complain about their phones.

Always online would be a genuine deal breaker for some people, while on the other hand it would be meaningless to others.

Though right now its pointless arguing about, because we know nothing official at all.



                            

J_Allard on 29 April 2013

This forum is really the only place I see so much negativity, but there aren't many MS enthusiasts here. Other places like GAF the hate seems much more reasonable and even in terms of mindless hate, pessimistic doubt, cautious optimism, and blind devotion.



BenVTrigger on 29 April 2013
KHlover said:
Quite honest, the amount of negativity surrounding the Nextbox right now is nothing compared to the negativity Nintendo fans had to endure during the GCN era, especially the last 2-3 years of the Wii era (though on the forums I attended during the Wii era Nintendo fans were belittled even when the Wii was at its peak) and the WiiU era so far.

I don't want to downplay how incredibly stupid it is to judge a console based on rumors, but that's just how it is.


Your talking about times when the systems were already out though.  When people could actually play them or look at their software line up and make descisions about them.

No one has seen the new xbox.  No one knows what features it has.  No one knows what exclusives it has.  No one knows anything about it.



VGKing on 29 April 2013
BenVTrigger said:
Carl2291 said:
The problem is that there is so much smoke, its hard to imagine there being no fire.

Every rumor Ive seen about it has been a negative rumor. When they actually reveal it I expect a bunch of stuff to be confirmed and a bunch of stuff to be refuted. Just dont let it get to you and wait for the chance to give out a "told ya so".


The ironic thing though is 90% of the people complaining about always online are people on internet forums.....who are constantly online.  Most of the people complaining have their Xboxs and PS3s hooked up to stable internet nearly all the time.

Now personally I hope the Next Xbox doesnt require an always online connection but who knows maybe the sheer amount of amazing things theyre adding to Xbox Live makes them require a connection. Thats my point is we dont know anything yet.  For all we know always online could be an incredible experience.  If you have a smartphone its always connected.  People dont complain about their phones.

i don't think anyone cares about always-online, but when always-online is a requriement as in the console doesn't work without an internet connection, that's a problem. Last I checked, there are about 46million XBox Live accounts(Silver + Gold) yet there are 77million Xbox 360s sold.

If the next XBox is truly always online, this means Microsoft will lose out on 30million sales. Hell, people might buy this thing without even knowing that is requries an internet connection. Grandmas don't exactly read the fine print. 

Nothing good comes of making your consumers be always online. The only good thing here is that Microsoft can track your every move and serve you ads that cater to your interests. That's the only real benefit I can think of that comes from always-online. 



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VGKing on 29 April 2013
BenVTrigger said:
KHlover said:
Quite honest, the amount of negativity surrounding the Nextbox right now is nothing compared to the negativity Nintendo fans had to endure during the GCN era, especially the last 2-3 years of the Wii era (though on the forums I attended during the Wii era Nintendo fans were belittled even when the Wii was at its peak) and the WiiU era so far.

I don't want to downplay how incredibly stupid it is to judge a console based on rumors, but that's just how it is.


Your talking about times when the systems were already out though.  When people could actually play them or look at their software line up and make descisions about them.

No one has seen the new xbox.  No one knows what features it has.  No one knows what exclusives it has.  No one knows anything about it.

That's Microsofts fault. Maybe if they revealed the next XBox months ago then there wouldnt' be this much negativity. 



Turkish on 29 April 2013

They have good reasons to hate on it, an anti consumer console/game will get hated on it whether its called xbox or playstation. The rumors might end up not being true, but that doesn't mean we were wrong to hate going by what we knew about it.



Lostplanet22 on 29 April 2013
J_Allard said:
This forum is really the only place I see so much negativity, but there aren't many MS enthusiasts here. Other places like GAF the hate seems much more reasonable and even in terms of mindless hate, pessimistic doubt, cautious optimism, and blind devotion.

That is because many remember the hate against Xbox 360 and don't want to jump the hate train for a second time....

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1378821&postcount=702



 

VGKing on 29 April 2013
walsufnir said:
VGKing said:
It is completely deserved. These rumors that are going around are horrible and very anti-consumer.


Some rumors, not all. That is why I am surprised why you say "completely deserved".

The rumored negative "features" of this console far outweigh any positives. 
if these "features" were rumored for the PS4, you would expect the same response. This isn't just Sony fans that are against it, its gamers in general.



KHlover on 29 April 2013
BenVTrigger said:
KHlover said:
Quite honest, the amount of negativity surrounding the Nextbox right now is nothing compared to the negativity Nintendo fans had to endure during the GCN era, especially the last 2-3 years of the Wii era (though on the forums I attended during the Wii era Nintendo fans were belittled even when the Wii was at its peak) and the WiiU era so far.

I don't want to downplay how incredibly stupid it is to judge a console based on rumors, but that's just how it is.


Your talking about times when the systems were already out though.  When people could actually play them or look at their software line up and make descisions about them.

No one has seen the new xbox.  No one knows what features it has.  No one knows what exclusives it has.  No one knows anything about it.

Can't deny that and fully agree with you. Although it imo doesn't make a big difference if a console gets hate after the announcement but before the release (See WiiU and GCN) or before the announcement - the specs are equally unknown.



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