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Wright said:

Why you ignore Kameo and Viva Piñata? Both great titles from Rare ;___;

No. I didn't ignor they... just they are release five years ago... after 2008 Rare did just Kinect Sports (1 & 2)... I don't know why but no new development Rare did after Kinect launch.



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ethomaz said:

Wright said:

Why you ignore Kameo and Viva Piñata? Both great titles from Rare ;___;

No. I didn't ignor they... just they are release five years ago... after 2008 Rare did just Kinect Sports (1 & 2)... I don't know why but no new development Rare did after Kinect launch.


They announced something, though. A new mystery character in a new game. But don't know more than that.



VGKing said:

Years ago, when I owned a 360 and was limited to a small allowance it did limit what games I played. I played no online games at all since I preferred to buy another game instead of buying something that was free on other platforms. 

Multiplatform games are very important. I know that. But so are 1st party games. Those are what makes your platform different from others. That's what Microsoft needs to expand upon. You disagree?

Online gaming is free on other platforms. But the reason I pay is because its the only way I can play the games I prefer online. Well that and I buy a lot Gold deals.

The 360 has a bunch of games you won't find on the PS3 and distinguish it. Yet Sony fans pretend there are few. No need for you to agree or disagree, this is a fact.

If you're dying for more 1st party games from MS, my guess is we'll some on May 21st. Its clear MS is pretty much done with the 360. It was a good ~7 years or so, it was a long party and now they feel its time to move on. Sony will do the same soon.



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ethomaz said:

Wright said:

Why you ignore Kameo and Viva Piñata? Both great titles from Rare ;___;

No. I didn't ignor they... just they are release five years ago... after 2008 Rare did just Kinect Sports (1 & 2)... I don't know why but no new development Rare did after Kinect launch.

After 2008 they apparently helped develop the Kinect, Avatars, and released some big hits.

Could be worse, they didn't just close down like some of those Sony studios. Rare doesn't get any respect!



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VGKing said:

Really? Have any names?

In my opinion it just seems that nothing from these studios has been announced so they're irreleavnt to the current discussion. We can only go buy what we've seen, not what could be. Hopefully both Sony and Microsoft pump out new core IP. I'd love to be a multi-console owner next-gen. 

We've seen MS put out much more than entertainment apps and Kinect. But you seem to think that's their only focus.



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Mr Puggsly said:

After 2008 they apparently helped develop the Kinect, Avatars, and released some big hits.

Could be worse, they didn't just close down like some of those Sony studios. Rare doesn't get any respect!

Well the respect think is another story... they never reach the the quality level showed in the Nintendo plataform... they did three or four good games? Yes but Rare was known for make AAA amazing titles... not only good... so the games thinks they didn't do anything that remember the old Rare.

I can't disagree... I don't know what happen but Rare changed from a Big AAA developer to a good developer.



ethomaz said:

Mr Puggsly said:

After 2008 they apparently helped develop the Kinect, Avatars, and released some big hits.

Could be worse, they didn't just close down like some of those Sony studios. Rare doesn't get any respect!

Well the respect think is another story... they never reach the the quality level showed in the Nintendo plataform... they did three or four good games? Yes but Rare was known for make AAA amazing titles... not only good... so the games thinks they didn't do anything that remember the old Rare.

I can't disagree... I don't know what happen but Rare changed from a Big AAA developer to a good developer.

The expectations during their Nintendo days were also a lot lower. A game like Goldeneye or Banjo Kazooie isn't AAA by today's standards.

The games they did for MS platforms like Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero were high quality compared to what they did in the past, but expectations have changed so much. Kameo would have done great with a Nintendo audience, it would have even been a AAA game for the Wii. Perfect Dark Zero was lame because it wasn't at par with shooters of the time. But still technically one of the best shooters Rare ever created.

A lot of studios that made great games in the 90s have struggled to stay relevant. That's why many of them disappeared or changed to appeal to modern audiences.



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Immortal said:
Adinnieken said:

As a current 4.0 student of English, who's instructor vowed she never gave A's out on drafts, but who routinely received A's on drafts, will say this.

"Xbox guy" is meaningless.  It has no value.  In order to offer weight to his opinion, he could have said "I've owned an Xbox (360) from the day it was released."  "Xbox guy" doesn't qualify whether the person just liked what Microsoft did with the Xbox (360), liked the Xbox (360), or owned the console.  I'm not debating he likes or doesn't like the Xbox.  Just that the weight of the statement "Xbox guy" is weak.

His paragraph structure, more so than his sentence structure is horrible, however.  Every sentence is it's own paragraph.  Every fricken sentence.  It'd have been better to break everything out into bullet points and leave it at that.

I've argued against the merits of the actual article elsewhere.

The irony... That whole sentence sucks, by the way. Not that I can really judge you for this stuff on an internet forum. ;P

On topic, this article is really hard to comprehend. I have no idea what point he's trying to make. And what the hell is "PS4 levitates Sony" supposed to mean?

I'm posting comments on a forum, not attempting to pass myself off as a professional journalist or "blogger".  It was rather early this morning, so give me a break.



Mr Puggsly said:

The expectations during their Nintendo days were also a lot lower. A game like Goldeneye or Banjo Kazooie isn't AAA by today's standards.

The games they did for MS platforms like Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero were high quality compared to what they did in the past, but expectations have changed so much. Kameo would have done great with a Nintendo audience, it would have even been a AAA game for the Wii. Perfect Dark Zero was lame because it wasn't at par with shooters of the time. But still technically one of the best shooters Rare ever created.

A lot of studios that made great games in the 90s have struggled to stay relevant. That's why many of them disappeared or changed to appeal to modern audiences.

I disagree... I played Goldeneye theses days ago and the gameplay is better than any recente FPS... I don't know if the N64 controller is so good for it but the fact this game yet have the same revolucionary gameplay showed more than 10 years ago makes me really happy.

Perfect Dark Zero even using the same formule is not on pair with Goldeneye.

And Donkey Kong for SNES is yet better than NSMB for Wii U... and Killer Instinct better than the latest Mortal Kombat (of course Street Fighter IV is better than all of them but that's another case because the IV is the fist in the franchise to really make me fell like the old SFII are back).

So I disagree because the old Rare games are the best yet and better than most games released today.



ethomaz said:

Mr Puggsly said:

After 2008 they apparently helped develop the Kinect, Avatars, and released some big hits.

Could be worse, they didn't just close down like some of those Sony studios. Rare doesn't get any respect!

Well the respect think is another story... they never reach the the quality level showed in the Nintendo plataform... they did three or four good games? Yes but Rare was known for make AAA amazing titles... not only good... so the games thinks they didn't do anything that remember the old Rare.

I can't disagree... I don't know what happen but Rare changed from a Big AAA developer to a good developer.


I'd rather have a developer who makes three or four good games (let's just ignore the Kinect thing >_>) instead of a developer who promises the stars and don't deliver absolutely nothing during this generation =P