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Jay520 on 28 April 2013
drkohler said:
JayWood2010 said:

  I do know that you can make a plausible equation for 1+1=3

For reasonably large values of 1, this equation is true


What is this?

EDIT: I see you have a pHD in physics. Spread your wisdom!



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AbbathTheGrim on 28 April 2013
badgenome said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
But the difference between 0.9999... and 1 is .1 not 0. The 0.99999... seems like a perpetual state of waiting for that .1 but it never coming, like third parties for Nintendo.

Shit, that made me laugh.

Sweet.

Jay520 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
But the difference between 0.9999... and 1 is .1 not 0. 

 

At no point will you ever reach ....0001.

But I think it can, you just need:

0.9 + 0.1 = 1



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

crissindahouse on 28 April 2013

that's why i round up when i have a .5 or above



Jaywood2010 on 28 April 2013
Jay520 said:

This is a fairly old topic so I'm not sure if all of you have heard about this. I just found out about it and found it interesting.

The claim is that 0.9999.....(infinite 9s) is equal to 1.

Here are some proofs

-

x = 0.9999… given
10x = 9.9999…. multiply by 10
9x = 9 subtract x
x = 1 divide by 9
0.999... = 1 substitution

- 

What's the difference between 1 and 0.9999....? Their difference is 0.0000....The zeroes will stretch out infinitely and we will never reach 1. Therefore, 0.00000...can be simplified to 0.

If the difference between any two numbers is 0, then they are of the same value.

- 

On the number line, there is no real number between 0.99999..... and 1. If there is no real number between any two numbers, then those two numbers are of the same value. There is no number higher than 0.9999... and lower than 1, therefore they are of the same value.

- 

1= 7/7 
1= 5/7 + 2/7 
1= 0.714285714285.... + 0.285714285714......
1= 0.999999999999

and many more


Ohhh, ok that makes sense.  I've never heard it before actually, but it is interesting.




       

Player2 on 28 April 2013
Wright said:
The problem comes when you operate on an infinite scale. There's no way you can reach infinite. Infinite + 1 = Infinite. Going by that logic, yeah, the diference between 1 to 0'9999...·n Infinite is 0000000.... ·n Infinite + 1. And Infinite + 1 = infinite. So there's no difference between 1 and 0'99999....

1/0 = infinite :P

 

1/3 = 0.3 periodic.

3(1/3) = 3(0.3 periodic) --> 1 = 0.9 periodic.



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Jay520 on 28 April 2013
AbbathTheGrim said:
Jay520 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
But the difference between 0.9999... and 1 is .1 not 0. 

 

At no point will you ever reach ....0001.

But I think it can, you just need:

0.9 + 0.1 = 1


I'm not sure what you mean, but I'll try to understand.

Let's change that 0.9 to 0.999 (infinite 9s). If the 1 were to remain 1, what would 0.1 have to change to? 

It would have to change to 0.000000.....



Wright on 28 April 2013
Player2 said:
Wright said:
The problem comes when you operate on an infinite scale. There's no way you can reach infinite. Infinite + 1 = Infinite. Going by that logic, yeah, the diference between 1 to 0'9999...·n Infinite is 0000000.... ·n Infinite + 1. And Infinite + 1 = infinite. So there's no difference between 1 and 0'99999....

1/0 = infinite :P


Then Infinite · 0 = 1?

Think about it.



Player2 on 28 April 2013
Wright said:
Player2 said:
Wright said:
The problem comes when you operate on an infinite scale. There's no way you can reach infinite. Infinite + 1 = Infinite. Going by that logic, yeah, the diference between 1 to 0'9999...·n Infinite is 0000000.... ·n Infinite + 1. And Infinite + 1 = infinite. So there's no difference between 1 and 0'99999....

1/0 = infinite :P


Then Infinite · 0 = 1?

Think about it.

It can be. infinite x 0 is an indeterminate form.



Jay520 on 28 April 2013
Wright said:
Player2 said:
Wright said:
The problem comes when you operate on an infinite scale. There's no way you can reach infinite. Infinite + 1 = Infinite. Going by that logic, yeah, the diference between 1 to 0'9999...·n Infinite is 0000000.... ·n Infinite + 1. And Infinite + 1 = infinite. So there's no difference between 1 and 0'99999....

1/0 = infinite :P


Then Infinite · 0 = 1?

Think about it.


Yeah, you cannot divide by zero because it doesn't make sense. Not even 0/0.



A_C_E on 28 April 2013
Jay520 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
But the difference between 0.9999... and 1 is .1 not 0. 


Nope, it's zero. 

1 - 0.9 = 0.1

1 - 0.99 = 0.01

1 - 0.9999 = 0.0001

But when you have infinite nines, you also have infinite zeros and never reach the 1. 

  1.0000000000000000........
- 0.9999999999999999.........
=0.0000000000000000........

At no point will you ever reach ....0001.

The infinite seems as though its governed by the rule that it will never be or would be forever therefore can't be another in this case the 0.999 can't be 1 because it will never reach there. Instead it just is. In physics, nothing is ever an exact. The study of entropy and all that jazz may or may not explain all this. Its all really just a confusing mess to me.