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chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
ShadowSoldier said:
thranx said:
ShadowSoldier said:
God I want this franchise to die out


I used to feel the same way. but it is what it is. people still seem to like the gameplay. I personally dont, but others seem too. I do think that the next gen will be the best time for another shooter to try and take the crown. we will see.


I honestly feel that CODs success has actually done more harm to the industry then good and seeing it go the way of Guitar Hero would put such a huge smile on my face. but thats another thread and another discussion

Harmed the industry? How? By bringing in billions of dollars every year?

By being the only game millions of gamers play so they don't step out and try/buy new different games.  It hurts the industry when a chunk of gamers stop buying anything but the same game every year.

So its guilty of being fun and addicting? Here's a thought, developers should try and create fun original games instead of trying to copy COD. Maybe then people will buy their games instead.....

(1)Do you seriously think that if Call of Duty stopped releasing that people would buy something else? Many wouldn't buy anything at all and many would just move on to something like Battlefield. Not everyone is into video games as much as you are. Not everyone wants to buy dozens of games a year. (2)I don't see what the problem is with people buying only 1 or 2 games a year.

1- Of course not, if COD stopped being made they would throw their 360's into a fire of course.

2- We were talking about COD hurting the "industry", not hurting Activision.  If COD leads to less game sales of different developers & publishers games then that hurts the "industry", plain & simple.

What? I really don't understand what you're trying to say.

Call of Duty hurts the industry, but if they stopped making it then it would only hurt Activision? LOL

Call of Duty sells millions of consoles a year. Call of Duty keeps stores like Gamestop operational. Call of Duty keeps the video game industry mainstream.



dsage01 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
God I want this franchise to die out

Couldn't agree with you more.

i dont. i want the game to be a quality product again



JayWood2010 said:

Can't have gaming forums without people complaining about Call of Duty and wanting it to die.

One of the best FPS games regardless of people hating on it. Anything that is popular gets hated on so that is ok.

I hope it does have a new engine :) Maybe improve on some of the things that they have done wrong in previous games to make it a little more balanced.


it used to be one of the best FPS's. but other games have moved forward while CoD moved backwards. have you played block ops 2? its 1billion dollar revenue making joke of a game.

regardless, i dont want the franchise to die, i just want it to be a quality product again






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pezus said:
I'm more of the opinion that Call of Duty expanded the market instead of stealing gamers away from it. Lots of people play CoD who had never played any other games before.

I've been saying this exact thing for I don't know how long, but do the haters ever listen?

COD expanded the market to the "dudebros" who used to think gaming was a past time for nerds. Now that COD has acquired mainstream attention, these people have jumped in on the gaming bandwagon to try out what's popular. While most of them probably don't hold gaming to such a high regard but I'm sure there are some amongst them who have taken a liking to gaming and have started to branch out beyond COD. That is expanding the gaming market and people should be thankful to COD for doing so even if they don't like the franchise itself.



 

bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Can't have gaming forums without people complaining about Call of Duty and wanting it to die.

One of the best FPS games regardless of people hating on it. Anything that is popular gets hated on so that is ok.

I hope it does have a new engine :) Maybe improve on some of the things that they have done wrong in previous games to make it a little more balanced.


it used to be one of the best FPS's. but other games have moved forward while CoD moved backwards. have you played block ops 2? its 1billion dollar revenue making joke of a game.

regardless, i dont want the franchise to die, i just want it to be a quality product again

And what would these other FPS games be?  The only multiplayer FPS's that have been good that I'm aware of are on the list below

Halo
Call of Duty
Battlefield
Killzone
Resistance


I may be missing som but Halo and Call of Duty will be at the top on the majority of people's lists.  Talking about Call of Duty on forums is a waste of time though because they for whatever reason hate the games.  And while I didn't buy the last Call of Duty Im not going to be ignorant about it like some people in here saying they wished it would die or that it has hurt the industry.  It has deserved those sales by CoD4 being original and expanding the FPS genre.  It alsop has expanded the gaming community, not taken away from it.




       

chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
ShadowSoldier said:
thranx said:
ShadowSoldier said:
God I want this franchise to die out


I used to feel the same way. but it is what it is. people still seem to like the gameplay. I personally dont, but others seem too. I do think that the next gen will be the best time for another shooter to try and take the crown. we will see.


I honestly feel that CODs success has actually done more harm to the industry then good and seeing it go the way of Guitar Hero would put such a huge smile on my face. but thats another thread and another discussion

Harmed the industry? How? By bringing in billions of dollars every year?

By being the only game millions of gamers play so they don't step out and try/buy new different games.  It hurts the industry when a chunk of gamers stop buying anything but the same game every year.

So its guilty of being fun and addicting? Here's a thought, developers should try and create fun original games instead of trying to copy COD. Maybe then people will buy their games instead.....

(1)Do you seriously think that if Call of Duty stopped releasing that people would buy something else? Many wouldn't buy anything at all and many would just move on to something like Battlefield. Not everyone is into video games as much as you are. Not everyone wants to buy dozens of games a year. (2)I don't see what the problem is with people buying only 1 or 2 games a year.

1- Of course not, if COD stopped being made they would throw their 360's into a fire of course.

2- We were talking about COD hurting the "industry", not hurting Activision.  If COD leads to less game sales of different developers & publishers games then that hurts the "industry", plain & simple.

What? I really don't understand what you're trying to say.

(1) Call of Duty hurts the industry, but if they stopped making it then it would only hurt Activision? LOL

(b) Call of Duty sells millions of consoles a year. Call of Duty keeps stores like Gamestop operational. Call of Duty keeps the video game industry mainstream.

(a) If they stopped making it, yes, it would only hurt Activision, since Activision is the only company that profits from COD.  It would help the industry as a whole since people would buy different games from different developers and publishers, spreading the wealth and supporting new creative types of games.  COD doesn't just hurt other members of the industry financially, it also hurts the industry from a creative perspective.  You said yourself COD is "addictive",  when someone is addicted to something they overuse it in an unresonable fasion at the expense of doing/trying other things.

(2) Does it really sell millions of consoles a year, or is that just something you said to fill space?  Used games are what keeps Gamestop operational, COD gives a one time boost to all retailers (not just Gamestop) once a year.  If these addicts didn't seek a once a year fix they could try more different experiences throughout the year.

Doubtfully.  If you dont make good games people wont buy them regardless.  These other companies will not get a boost at all.  The only games that would get a boost would maybe be Halo and Battlefield.  It is the multiplayer side of the industry and people arent going to stop playing an addictive multiplayer game for singleplayer games regardless of what you say.  If CoD was no longer made then the industry would shrink and you would see a few boosts like I mentioned before.

And yes it has sold millions of consoles considering that many people buy the X360/PS3 just to play CoD with their friends.  If you call a game like Uncharted a system seller that has sold around 16m respectively then you must call CoD a system seller thathas sold around 150m copies since CoD4




       

chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
chris_wing said:
VGKing said:
ShadowSoldier said:
thranx said:
ShadowSoldier said:
God I want this franchise to die out


I used to feel the same way. but it is what it is. people still seem to like the gameplay. I personally dont, but others seem too. I do think that the next gen will be the best time for another shooter to try and take the crown. we will see.


I honestly feel that CODs success has actually done more harm to the industry then good and seeing it go the way of Guitar Hero would put such a huge smile on my face. but thats another thread and another discussion

Harmed the industry? How? By bringing in billions of dollars every year?

By being the only game millions of gamers play so they don't step out and try/buy new different games.  It hurts the industry when a chunk of gamers stop buying anything but the same game every year.

So its guilty of being fun and addicting? Here's a thought, developers should try and create fun original games instead of trying to copy COD. Maybe then people will buy their games instead.....

(1)Do you seriously think that if Call of Duty stopped releasing that people would buy something else? Many wouldn't buy anything at all and many would just move on to something like Battlefield. Not everyone is into video games as much as you are. Not everyone wants to buy dozens of games a year. (2)I don't see what the problem is with people buying only 1 or 2 games a year.

1- Of course not, if COD stopped being made they would throw their 360's into a fire of course.

2- We were talking about COD hurting the "industry", not hurting Activision.  If COD leads to less game sales of different developers & publishers games then that hurts the "industry", plain & simple.

What? I really don't understand what you're trying to say.

(1) Call of Duty hurts the industry, but if they stopped making it then it would only hurt Activision? LOL

(b) Call of Duty sells millions of consoles a year. Call of Duty keeps stores like Gamestop operational. Call of Duty keeps the video game industry mainstream.

(a) If they stopped making it, yes, it would only hurt Activision, since Activision is the only company that profits from COD.  It would help the industry as a whole since people would buy different games from different developers and publishers, spreading the wealth and supporting new creative types of games.  COD doesn't just hurt other members of the industry financially, it also hurts the industry from a creative perspective.  You said yourself COD is "addictive",  when someone is addicted to something they overuse it in an unresonable fasion at the expense of doing/trying other things.

(2) Does it really sell millions of consoles a year, or is that just something you said to fill space?  Used games are what keeps Gamestop operational, COD gives a one time boost to all retailers (not just Gamestop) once a year.  If these addicts didn't seek a once a year fix they could try more different experiences throughout the year.

1. So someone who plays COD and buys it every year would buy a game like Dark Souls if Activision didn'tn release a new version this year? You're wrong. No Call of Duty means everyone who sells videos games will be hurt by it. Stores get a cut from each copy sold and the game keeps being the #1 game evern after the holidays. Have you taken a look at the sales charts on this site the past few months? Black Ops 2 has been a consistent best-seller.

2. Yes, it does sell millions of consoles a year. I myself know people who bought a 360 JUST FOR Call of Duty. Yes, used games keep Gamestop operational, and guess which games they sell the most of? CALL OF DUTY.  



I'm not excited for this, but looks interesting for the fans...I know many fans of that series in my school.
And honestly, I've never played a Call of Duty game, not even the first one.