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Darc Requiem said:
chapset said:
instant teleportation gives goku the win for me, but if he can't get Superman out of the a yellow sun system he would lose because superman is more powerful than god

With Goku's personality, he'd transport himself and Superman to a blue/white sun.  With "5 minutes" left until Namek exploded, he waited for Freeza to reach his full power because he wanted to defeat him at full strength. Vegeta would make the same mistake. Now if you wanted a Saiyan that would do what is necessary to beat Superman, it would be Mirai Trunks. Unlike Goku and Vegeta, Trunks is willing to do what's necessary to win.

Trunks couldn't, superman would be to powerfull in our solar system and Trunks can't teleport, also I don't even know if superman lose is powers instantaly when he leaves the range of a yellow star or does it goes down over time in that case goku wouldn't last long enough to beat him. You know what, I assume in my first post that goku would know about the star thing so if he doesn't he would also lose. Theirs to many variables to conclude a clear winner



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chapset said:
Darc Requiem said:
chapset said:
instant teleportation gives goku the win for me, but if he can't get Superman out of the a yellow sun system he would lose because superman is more powerful than god

With Goku's personality, he'd transport himself and Superman to a blue/white sun.  With "5 minutes" left until Namek exploded, he waited for Freeza to reach his full power because he wanted to defeat him at full strength. Vegeta would make the same mistake. Now if you wanted a Saiyan that would do what is necessary to beat Superman, it would be Mirai Trunks. Unlike Goku and Vegeta, Trunks is willing to do what's necessary to win.

Trunks couldn't, superman would be to powerfull in our solar system and Trunks can't teleport, also I don't even know if superman lose is powers instantaly when he leaves the range of a yellow star or does it goes down over time in that case goku wouldn't last long enough to beat him. You know what, I assume in my first post that goku would know about the star thing so if he doesn't he would also lose. Theirs to many variables to conclude a clear winner


I'm not saying Trunks would win. I'm saying he's the only that wouldn't have problem using Kryptonite to do so. Goku likes to fight people at their best and Vegeta's pride has gotten owned repeatedly because of similar behavior. Cell and Majin Buu come to mind.



Darc Requiem said:
Talal said:

Both of them are really inconsistent it's hard to judge. I mean Goku could blow up planets probably before ssj1 then he struggles to push a small mountain apart at ssj2, what's up with that?

The problem with Dragon Ball Z is that a lot of filler was made because the manga was still on going while the anime was in production. Some of things shown in the anime never happened in the manga. DBZ is full of plot holes and inconsistencies. Mr. Popo fighting Trunks and Goten being a prime example.


But in the manga Cell can destroy this whole galaxy.

And Vegeta at the beginning can destroy a planet without even trying with just 2 fingers before he ever reaches earth.



Lol you gotta be crazy to think superman could beat goku.



goku wins end of discussion freza in his 1% state destroyed a planet with ease...

goku as a supersaiyan 1 is more than 100% x that power ( based on the fact that he defeated freza in 100% form )

...can superman even destroy a planet?



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I like Goku way more than Superman, but everyone that thinks Goku would beat Superman is very misinformed and very likely has little knowledge of Superman himself. The strongest Superman has become to date is Superman Prime, who is essentially omni-potent.

He spent 15,000 years saturating inside of a sun, he has the last and most powerful green lantern ring.

Superman Prime's vision is now God-Like allowing him to see everything in all of time and space, the distant past, and the future, which means he can see everything Goku is going to do before he even does it.

Because of the powers Superman obtained from the Source, he can alter Reality on any scale he wants, from Universal to Multiversal scale.

He has gained the power of the 5th dimensional imps, for those of you that dont know, the 5th Dimensional Imps, are Imps... from the 5th Dimension... go figure. They are beings with extreme power at their disposal that put them above nearly all cosmic beings in the Multiverse. They have shown to be able to destroy dimensions by laughing and creating entire Universes by snapping their fingers. So if Superman wanted to he could destroy the universe that Goku is in thus defeating him.

Not only can Superman now teleport wherever he wants (Instant Transmission) he now has nigh omnipresence which means he can almost be everywhere at once.

He is now nigh - omnipotent which means he has power over almost everything as well as being invulnerable, he is now immune to kryptonite.

There is no way Goku can win a fight against him. Even if they were somehow evenly matched, Superman would simply out live Goku during their fight.



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o_O.Q said:

goku wins end of discussion freza in his 1% state destroyed a planet with ease...

goku as a supersaiyan 1 is more than 100% x that power ( based on the fact that he defeated freza in 100% form )

...can superman even destroy a planet?


Freiza was lying. He said he was at 1% of his maximum but he was at 25%. Full Power Freiza had a power level of 12 million. SSJ1 Goku had a power level of 15 million. 1% of his maximum would have been 120,000. That's Ginyu's power level.



Darc Requiem said:
o_O.Q said:

goku wins end of discussion freza in his 1% state destroyed a planet with ease...

goku as a supersaiyan 1 is more than 100% x that power ( based on the fact that he defeated freza in 100% form )

...can superman even destroy a planet?


Freiza was lying. He said he was at 1% of his maximum but he was at 25%. Full Power Freiza had a power level of 12 million. SSJ1 Goku had a power level of 15 million. 1% of his maximum would have been 120,000. That's Ginyu's power level.

Vegeta has destroyed a planet with just 2 fingers before he arrive at Earth.

Freiza only destroy the core of the namekian planet to give Goku 5 minutes time to defeat him, otherwise there would be no atmosphere for Goku to have any oxygen to breath, so Freiza could seem like he won in a head-towhead match for stories to be told amongst people throughout the universe.



Kaizar said:
Darc Requiem said:
o_O.Q said:

goku wins end of discussion freza in his 1% state destroyed a planet with ease...

goku as a supersaiyan 1 is more than 100% x that power ( based on the fact that he defeated freza in 100% form )

...can superman even destroy a planet?


Freiza was lying. He said he was at 1% of his maximum but he was at 25%. Full Power Freiza had a power level of 12 million. SSJ1 Goku had a power level of 15 million. 1% of his maximum would have been 120,000. That's Ginyu's power level.

Vegeta has destroyed a planet with just 2 fingers before he arrive at Earth.

Freiza only destroy the core of the namekian planet to give Goku 5 minutes time to defeat him, otherwise there would be no atmosphere for Goku to have any oxygen to breath, so Freiza could seem like he won in a head-towhead match for stories to be told amongst people throughout the universe.


That scene is from a filler episode and is not cannon so most people wouldnt count that. Regardless, even if that was so, it still wouldnt be enough to stop superman prime.



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