Btw all information I got is that their will be more to see behind closed doors after the show. I will be their but not sure if I can see what is behind closed doors though :(. Can not believe that in little more than three weeks I am already on a plane for the show.

Sigh

Paul Thurrott's "no idea" quote is if the thinks the system will become a useless brick without the internet.

Nope

@regis57200 No idea.

— Paul Thurrott (@thurrott) April 25, 2013

Not just he said "no idea" more than one time,and the first one asking him is not only "if the thinks the system will become a useless brick without the internet",it also include "So will games be playable without an internet connection?"

Kotaku: Like I said, all devs aren't created equally. One might have been told about it, while the other wasn't.

Nope,they cleary said it will/it won't/only for TV etc,and it's not from developer

"What We're Not Sure About The Next Xbox:

That it requires an "always-online" internet connection. This one's strange. We've heard from some sources that the console will definitely need to be online to start playing games. Others have said this isn't the case. Some are even suggesting that it's the console's entertainment and TV capabilities that will need this, not your games. Because of this confusion, it goes in the maybe pile.

http://kotaku.com/everything-we-know-about-the-next-xbox-480112913

Same goes for VG Leaks. 

Nope

http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/

Why the hell developer would make a roadmap for MS?

Oh wait,we can't believe VGleaks now,right?

The only one thing i know right now is you don't even try to serach datas,even it's already in this thread,you just choose what you WANT to see

Come again?

Thurrott isn't going to outright confirm anything and is just going to shrug off questions with "No idea" because he doesn't want to get Orth'd. He is smarter than that, and it would either get him or his sources canned in a hurry. This is the only data concerning Thurrott in the thread aside from the OP:

Sorry I don't want to comb through Twitter posts and replies, I have better things to do with my life. We can probably call it a wash on credibility if we throw out everything except Thurrott and VG Leaks, since we can probably agree that they have the most reliable info. Polygon had a thing today saying that it includes always on DRM, but is left up to the developer, much like Sony and the used game thing. That could be what he meant by "It isn't as draconian as many think." All I was saying is that his sources are far more reliable than the majority of the other ones. His information is much more recent than VG Leaks' as well, just saying.

You do have to notice on the VG Leaks thing that they say "We have received new information about the latest Xbox Roadmap" and not "We were provided with the latest Xbox Roadmap". There is a difference, the former suggests they are adding to the information that they have been leaked concering the direction MS is going with the Xbox, while the latter confirms that it is official Microsoft planning. 

Grains of salt everywhere, as always.

Leave the thread if you have better things for your life,rumor thread never a good thread
And i don't need notice VGleaks anything
1.It's roadmap,not from developers
2.The fuck?this is rumor thread and everything just rumors,where the fuck you ever listen any official details from MS?

It looks like you didn't even read most of my comment. I explain why the words they used could mean that it isn't directly from someone in MS. Nowhere did they say that what they received WAS the Xbox Roadmap, just that the information they received involved the perceived Xbox Roadmap. There is a distinct difference there. I even tried to reach some sort of agreement and explained what I was saying better, yet you still attack me. 

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say in your second point.

Sorry,no difference,everything from vgleaks is received,because they're not MS nor developers
And don't play fucking word game,vgleaks didn't play it,that's it,Thurrott said no idea MORE than one time,that's it,and none of them are from developers like what you said,that's it,don't forget your replies,you said it's from developers,but it's not.

Just admit you want it's require online so you ignore every thing,don't waste your time,right?look at thurrott's tweets,i said he tweeted no idea MORE than one time,and you still post the same picture,and no,he's close to MS doesn't mean he need to play smart to not get orth'd,he said no idea about online DRM,that's it.

Seems nothing from you i will agree btw.

Have the decency to quote me at least. Of course everything from VG Leaks is received....ALL rumors are received. If they meant that it was officially the Xbox Roadmap, they would have said so (like that leaked internal document that was absolutely a roadmap) and roadmaps can change by the way. Thurrott's information is more recent and is the source of the OP.

I posted that picture (ONCE) because you said the data was in the thread, I browsed the thread, found that as the only thing mentioning Thurrott's tweets and so there you have it. I went ahead and looked through the entire conversation regarding the OP, which you can find here: 

Here Comes the Next Xbox http://t.co/nthflCQ6At

— Paul Thurrott (@thurrott) April 25, 2013

He deflects ALL questions about the system with things like "Wait until the 21st please" and "Really tired of this topic." I also took the time to look through all of the rest of his tweets since he posted the "Here comes the next Xbox" blog post and he even negates the VG Leaks rumor with this tweet, but I guess you didn't see it: 

@BuldozerX That's not what I heard.

— Paul Thurrott (@thurrott) April 26, 2013

He doesn't know exact specifics of how the always online requirement will work, but he knows it does require it. Otherwise, he wouldn't have put it in his blog post coming from his sources.

I absolutely do not want it to require online and I have an internet connection that is strong enough that it wouldn't matter. I am simply saying that his sources within Microsoft have more recent info, have told him that it does in fact require and internet connection to use, and that they are very reliable. VG Leaks is reliable as well, but their information is older and we have 0 clue where their sources came from. VG Leaks has been wrong in the past about rumors you know.

As for the developer comments.....a developer at Crytek was the first to break the codename Durango. Kotaku and other sources are developers, they are not getting information from internal engineers at MS. Developers have been given dev kits that are housed in big black cases, and the controllers have a sort of "fingerprint" of black tape on them, so if they posted pictures, MS would know who they are by the design. The developer who released photos of the SDK running and put his dev kit online at eBay was raided by the feds. Developers are leaking things.

lol decency

Then?VGleaks said it's from MS latest roadmap,roadmap means they claimed it's from MS,whatever word they used,again,don't play fucking word game,VGleaks didn't.

"He doesn't know exact specifics of how the always online requirement will work, but he knows it does require it. Otherwise, he wouldn't have put it in his blog post coming from his sources."

Nope,again,he have no idea

@regis57200 No idea.

— Paul Thurrott (@thurrott) April 25, 2013

@ZeeMhaskar Again. No idea.

— Paul Thurrott (@thurrott) April 25, 2013

And the fact is,whatever he reliable or not,he "tired of this topic." means this article just made for hits,well since he is not really famous in gaming area,no surprise,he is reliable about other MS things doesn't means it's reliable about Xbox,even he's right about the time

And nope,every tweet i just checked,sorry,you're wrong

And it's not require online like he said,even it's up to publishers,it already means 100% not require online,i'm talking the console itself,not games

Who told you kotaku's source must be developers?yes some devlopers leak things,but who told you kotaku's source are developers?

"and that they are very reliable",see,because it's negative so it beomce reliable,even VGleaks said it's latest roadmap,why?because that roadmap sounds not negative.

You absolutely want or not doesn't matter,but you absolutely want MS to do that,simple,if not,why the hell you keep implying it will require online?huh?It won't require online

Oh btw let me guess,shit on MS everyday is good thing for your life right?guess that's why you don't even try to go polygon rumor thread to reply,because it sounds not negative

And it's ok if you want to keep shit on MS because i have infinite time to "talk" with you since i'm working at home.

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