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Do you want gay marriage in your country?

Yes, It would just be fair 241 58.78%
 
No, get the gay out of my country 102 24.88%
 
meh, I don't really care 66 16.10%
 
Total:409

Also i'm missing the option of ''gay marriage is already allowed in my country'' in the poll.



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fillet said:
Marriage is a Christian ceremony that the bible explicitly states is for two people of the opposite sex to participate in. The bible explicitly forbids homosexuality so therefore same sex marriage is ridiculous and wrong.

I have no problem with same sex relationships and a civil ceremony of course I have no problem against either. I also have no problem with people in same sex relationships participating in a civil ceremony benefiting from state benefits that people who are married enjoy.

People who don't believe in god also should not be allowed to get married, by adding that into law and creating a recognized civil partnership for those people that gives the same benefits as married people then everything is balanced out.

I challenge anyone to explain to me why this simple explanation is wrong, it is not prejudiced, it is simply against the teaching of said religion.

Marriage is no longer a religious thing dude. It's simply a societal function recognizing two people who share life. 

I've never once thought of it as a religious event, because it isn't. Same with Christmas, Easter, and any other religious holiday that has become nothing more than a societal norm.



Good for France! I was kinda shocked to see the strong opposition they faced from protestors. Hopefully, they'll see that all this does is allow two person who love each other to get married.



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fillet said:
Marriage is a Christian ceremony that the bible explicitly states is for two people of the opposite sex to participate in. The bible explicitly forbids homosexuality so therefore same sex marriage is ridiculous and wrong.

I have no problem with same sex relationships and a civil ceremony of course I have no problem against either. I also have no problem with people in same sex relationships participating in a civil ceremony benefiting from state benefits that people who are married enjoy.

People who don't believe in god also should not be allowed to get married, by adding that into law and creating a recognized civil partnership for those people that gives the same benefits as married people then everything is balanced out.

I challenge anyone to explain to me why this simple explanation is wrong, it is not prejudiced, it is simply against the teaching of said religion.

Well for starters it's not a Christian ceremony. You can have a Christian ceremony, but it was never solely a Christian affair. Marriage has been around longer than Christianity.



fillet said:
Marriage is a Christian ceremony that the bible explicitly states is for two people of the opposite sex to participate in. The bible explicitly forbids homosexuality so therefore same sex marriage is ridiculous and wrong.

I have no problem with same sex relationships and a civil ceremony of course I have no problem against either. I also have no problem with people in same sex relationships participating in a civil ceremony benefiting from state benefits that people who are married enjoy.

People who don't believe in god also should not be allowed to get married, by adding that into law and creating a recognized civil partnership for those people that gives the same benefits as married people then everything is balanced out.

I challenge anyone to explain to me why this simple explanation is wrong, it is not prejudiced, it is simply against the teaching of said religion.

because it is a brand and brand is really important...

it is like you having all the rights a brits practice but you can never call yourself a british citizen....



 

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Good. I imagine this will make many people happy.



Sensei said:
Still baffles me how people care about others' sexuality. I don't understand how giving people the same rights can be bad.

Agreed, lets just get rid of all marriage and be done with it.



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Well, it was about time that the country with the motto "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" treats a part of their citizens equally...

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There needs to be to different "marriages": One (without the word 'marriage') for rights in front of law and no religious meaning, and one for religious meaning (with the word 'marriage') without any legal strings attached. Bam, we have a solution! If you're gay and it's really not a religious issue, this is the perfect solution. And if you happen to be religious and are against gay marriage, well, there's no gay marriage anymore and your marriage is purely religious! The perfect solution still!

The only case that I can quickly think of where anyone would have something against this is if they somehow consider gay people lesser individuals that should not have the same rights, in which case they should be ignored because there's absolutely NOTHING pointing to gay people being lesser people.



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fillet said:
Marriage is a Christian ceremony that the bible explicitly states is for two people of the opposite sex to participate in. The bible explicitly forbids homosexuality so therefore same sex marriage is ridiculous and wrong.

I have no problem with same sex relationships and a civil ceremony of course I have no problem against either. I also have no problem with people in same sex relationships participating in a civil ceremony benefiting from state benefits that people who are married enjoy.

People who don't believe in god also should not be allowed to get married, by adding that into law and creating a recognized civil partnership for those people that gives the same benefits as married people then everything is balanced out.

I challenge anyone to explain to me why this simple explanation is wrong, it is not prejudiced, it is simply against the teaching of said religion.

Well for starters it's not a Christian ceremony. You can have a Christian ceremony, but it was never solely a Christian affair. Marriage has been around longer than Christianity.


Yeah I don't really see how you could possibly make such a system work since there are so many kinds of religious ceremonies for marriage.  If people go have a Hindi wedding does this mean we wouldn't recognize them or do they just have to be having a religious marriage of some kind and believe in some god to be admitted?  And why then would you allow other religious marriages but not non-religious marriages?  Not to mention that I really don't ever want the government deciding or allowing something based on religious preferences, that's a whole other issue.  Religion really isn't a religious institution anymore, and I'm afraid that the religious are just going to have to get used to the idea.  We could have a religious wedding and a legal wedding as many already do, but there's no reason that the government should defer marriage to religions.  



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