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DanneSandin on 21 April 2013
crissindahouse said:
yeah i agree with you, i don't really see what's different now as it was some years ago. yes wii is much weaker now compared to ps3 but not because of a ps3 comeback, because the wii started to sell really bad.

ps3 had sold maybe 8 million less as 360 but only because it had a later release. it's not a comeback if you start with 8 million behind and consitently sell little bit more. it's a comaback if you start with 8 million behind, sell much less as the competition to be 20 million behind after few years and then increase your sales dramatically to beat the other console on a weekly basis.

people needs to read this, especially the second parapraph.



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ktay95 on 21 April 2013

lol, people predicted 30mil lifetime... reminds me alot about 2 new consoles on the market *cough*WiiU*Cough*Vita. people always predict doom and gloom early in a consoles life



crissindahouse on 21 April 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
crissindahouse said:
yeah i agree with you, i don't really see what's different now as it was some years ago. yes wii is much weaker now compared to ps3 but not because of a ps3 comeback, because the wii started to sell really bad.

ps3 had sold maybe 8 million less as 360 but only because it had a later release. it's not a comeback if you start with 8 million behind and consitently sell little bit more. it's a comaback if you start with 8 million behind, sell much less as the competition to be 20 million behind after few years and then increase your sales dramatically to beat the other console on a weekly basis.

Upon release the gap was 5.5mil. The largest gap was 8mil... so yeah... there goes your theory

i know that, ps3 didn't sell in europe without an european release.



Max King of the Wild on 21 April 2013
crissindahouse said:
Max King of the Wild said:
crissindahouse said:
yeah i agree with you, i don't really see what's different now as it was some years ago. yes wii is much weaker now compared to ps3 but not because of a ps3 comeback, because the wii started to sell really bad.

ps3 had sold maybe 8 million less as 360 but only because it had a later release. it's not a comeback if you start with 8 million behind and consitently sell little bit more. it's a comaback if you start with 8 million behind, sell much less as the competition to be 20 million behind after few years and then increase your sales dramatically to beat the other console on a weekly basis.

Upon release the gap was 5.5mil. The largest gap was 8mil... so yeah... there goes your theory

i know that, ps3 didn't sell in europe without an european release.

The gap still increased. Now its decreasing.



DanneSandin on 21 April 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
DanneSandin said:
Max King of the Wild said:
DanneSandin said:
Max King of the Wild said:
When Ps3 released in 2006 the gap was something like 5.5mil world wide. When it released in Europe in March and you figured in NA and Japan gaps when the Ps3 launched the gap was 6.6mil WW. Let me be clear on this. This is the gap in NA in Nov '06 + gap in japan in Nov '06 + gap in EU in March '07.

The largest gap the 360 had on it was something close to 8mil. Now it's less than 1mil... that isn't a come back I don't know what is.

A comeback would suggest a very sudden surge in sales, which we don't see for the PS3, out side of the EU launch. It sold consistently better than X360. It was just a matter of time for the PS3 to catch up to X360 looking at the sales.

That's like saying that SNES made a comeback because it was released AFTER the Genesis, but still outsold it. Did SNES make a comeback? I don't think so, I think it consistently outsold its competition, which isn't the same thing as making a comeback.

You don't know what the word asinine means and are too ignorant to look it up (your own admission). Why should I listen to your obviously flawed logic of a comeback?

I actually DID look it up. And calling people more or less dumb because someone doesn't agree with you actually tells more about you than about me.

If you looked it up, and thats what you came up with... then you didn't look it up

No?

Adjective

asinine (comparative more asinine, superlative most asinine)

  1. Failing to exercise intelligence or judgment; ridiculously below average rationality.  [quotations ▼]
  2. Of, pertaining to, or characteristic of donkeys.

Synonyms

I'd say that's pretty much calling someone dumb



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brendude13 on 21 April 2013

I guess the comeback could also have a lot to do with the Wii. In a way, both the 360 and PS3 made a comeback against the Wii. With the PS3 making a minor comeback against the 360 on top of that, yeah, I'd say the PS3 made a comeback in weekly sales. I agree that how poorly the PS3 was selling at the start of this generation is greatly exaggerated though.



crissindahouse on 21 April 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
crissindahouse said:
Max King of the Wild said:
crissindahouse said:
yeah i agree with you, i don't really see what's different now as it was some years ago. yes wii is much weaker now compared to ps3 but not because of a ps3 comeback, because the wii started to sell really bad.

ps3 had sold maybe 8 million less as 360 but only because it had a later release. it's not a comeback if you start with 8 million behind and consitently sell little bit more. it's a comaback if you start with 8 million behind, sell much less as the competition to be 20 million behind after few years and then increase your sales dramatically to beat the other console on a weekly basis.

Upon release the gap was 5.5mil. The largest gap was 8mil... so yeah... there goes your theory

i know that, ps3 didn't sell in europe without an european release.

The gap still increased. Now its decreasing.

and how much did the gap increase when ps3 was available in all major markets?

i don't even understand why playstation fans have such a problem with it, they should be happy to hear that ps3 was always strong.



Max King of the Wild on 21 April 2013
DanneSandin said:
Max King of the Wild said:
DanneSandin said:
Max King of the Wild said:
DanneSandin said:
Max King of the Wild said:
When Ps3 released in 2006 the gap was something like 5.5mil world wide. When it released in Europe in March and you figured in NA and Japan gaps when the Ps3 launched the gap was 6.6mil WW. Let me be clear on this. This is the gap in NA in Nov '06 + gap in japan in Nov '06 + gap in EU in March '07.

The largest gap the 360 had on it was something close to 8mil. Now it's less than 1mil... that isn't a come back I don't know what is.

A comeback would suggest a very sudden surge in sales, which we don't see for the PS3, out side of the EU launch. It sold consistently better than X360. It was just a matter of time for the PS3 to catch up to X360 looking at the sales.

That's like saying that SNES made a comeback because it was released AFTER the Genesis, but still outsold it. Did SNES make a comeback? I don't think so, I think it consistently outsold its competition, which isn't the same thing as making a comeback.

You don't know what the word asinine means and are too ignorant to look it up (your own admission). Why should I listen to your obviously flawed logic of a comeback?

I actually DID look it up. And calling people more or less dumb because someone doesn't agree with you actually tells more about you than about me.

If you looked it up, and thats what you came up with... then you didn't look it up

No?

Adjective

asinine (comparative more asinine, superlative most asinine)

  1. Failing to exercise intelligence or judgment; ridiculously below average rationality.  [quotations ▼]
  2. Of, pertaining to, or characteristic of donkeys.

Synonyms

I'd say that's pretty much calling someone dumb

I don't know where you got that asinine definition from but.... ": extremely or utterly foolish <an asinine excuse>" Mariam webster. And you have a very poor memory considering I didn't call anyone asinine.



Max King of the Wild on 21 April 2013

Oh, and incase you don't know what foolish is...

fool·ish
adjective ˈfü-lish
1

: lacking in sense, judgment, or discretion


2

a : absurd, ridiculous



Max King of the Wild on 21 April 2013
crissindahouse said:
Max King of the Wild said:
crissindahouse said:
Max King of the Wild said:
crissindahouse said:
yeah i agree with you, i don't really see what's different now as it was some years ago. yes wii is much weaker now compared to ps3 but not because of a ps3 comeback, because the wii started to sell really bad.

ps3 had sold maybe 8 million less as 360 but only because it had a later release. it's not a comeback if you start with 8 million behind and consitently sell little bit more. it's a comaback if you start with 8 million behind, sell much less as the competition to be 20 million behind after few years and then increase your sales dramatically to beat the other console on a weekly basis.

Upon release the gap was 5.5mil. The largest gap was 8mil... so yeah... there goes your theory

i know that, ps3 didn't sell in europe without an european release.

The gap still increased. Now its decreasing.

and how much did the gap increase when ps3 was available in all major markets?

i don't even understand why playstation fans have such a problem with it, they should be happy to hear that ps3 was always strong.

By over a million. Which, considering the Ps3 probably didn't have 10mil sales at the time would be a crap load.