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I wouldn't believe in a God who isn't creator, honestly.



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The tides, man.  You need to add the tides to your "caused by god" list.

Bill O'Reilly Proves God's Existence - Video

To paraphrase Stephen Colbert, "Bill O'Reilly says that there must be a god because he doesn't know how things work."  That one line basically explains religion.



Your exclusive list and assumption that science has somehow encroached on the possibility of God exsisting or not is misguided. A misguided belief that you share with Stephen Hawkin by the way, so you're in good company.

As for the side question:

Yes, it makes as much sense to worship an impersonal god as a personal god. Just like it makes sense to worship the game library of the PS3 or any number of things people want to worship.

Finally, I guess some could find an image of God dressed up as Waldo a little offensive. Myself, I think considering the flawed premise of the thread that it's quite funny.



dsgrue3 said:

What's left:

  • Sun
  • Moon
  • Lightning
  • Volcanic eruptions
  • Hurricanes
  • Tornados
  • Earthquakes
  • Universe's Inception
  • Life from non-life
  • Species (plants/animals)
  • Crop Harvest
  • Death


Actually that last one should be crossed off as well, even the transition from the RNA (simple chemistry world) to the DNA world is explicable and robustly explored in recent years.  The process of earliest evolution has been modeled fairly well and there is really no gap to hide in there, at it's core it is chemistry.



pokoko said:

The tides, man.  You need to add the tides to your "caused by god" list.

Bill O'Reilly Proves God's Existence - Video

To paraphrase Stephen Colbert, "Bill O'Reilly says that there must be a god because he doesn't know how things work."  That one line basically explains religion.





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richardhutnik said:

Hidden in the desires of people to worship something.  Take out God, and you have people sticking videogames in their signatures, praising the glory of what they perceive will win their platform of choice more followers.

I am still awaiting atheistic art that ends up having similar enduring value as theistic works.  Oh, I see some corporate stuff, but the likes of Star Trek isn't even a preaching piece for secular humanism any longer.  What it is now is nothing but a device to entertain people.  Mind you, the Star Trek reboot does a great job of that, but still, it misses the moralizing of Gene Roddenbury.

Do I go with the Golden Compass?  Maybe that is it. 

Problem in this individualistic culture, about the only thing that unites people now is human tragedy.  On the religious front, at least you get some positive fellowship, rather than that of suffering.  You get some unity that does't require a bomb going off.

And pardon my being very blunt here, but I am disappointed by threads like this.  They are generally simplistic in their views and really are just rehashing.  I can run the book of Job ending and have people get back to me when they understand everything.  Issues in regards to theological stuff generally is far more involved with limits of human reasoning and capacities than with the God side.  Free will vs determinism?  Where did everything come from?  Where are we heading?  Is there life after death?  Why is there evil in the world?  All these also show how stupid and weak humans are in the big picture.  Plug in other ones also.

If humans weren't so weak, then we would have more secure futures, not worry about life after death (death would of been cured), and not have to worry about human suffering.  But, these problems remain, showing how pathetic humans are currently.

Well, except when acting in non-normal manners and transcending the natural order of things.

You said it man.



I don't think he's hiding.. I see him in the hearts and minds of millions of people every day.. From time to time they come at my door and then I'm the one hiding and pretending i'm not there..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do here, but the answer is obviously "the clouds."



he better be hiding somewhere where Kratos can't find him.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

On a serious note, god existing or not, I will never, ever understand the concept of worship. I don't get it. In fact, I would automatically lose respect for any god that required worship. It's an immature and fearful idea born from immature and fearful cultures.

If there really is a god out there, and he's as illuminated as people claim, I would imagine that he face-palms quite often over the whole bowing and kneeling thing. He's probably waiting for humanity to stand up and start thinking for itself on a regular basis.