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happydolphin said:
Lawlight said:
happydolphin said:

This gen could very well be the gen where 3rd parties plummet and Nintendo and indie games are the only viable business platforms in the industry.

Certain "journalists" will bash Nintendo because it gives them a sense of joy to put down what the inner-circle rejects. But in the end, the WiiU will hit a mass-market price with a DS-like library and it will hit them in the face just how wrong they are. The only problem is, I'm not sure they have the intelligence to realize they're been and will continue to be wrong.

Also, their big argument is the ability to subsidize the price over a subscription. It doesn't take a supercomputer to offer that service.


The GameCube hit mass market really quickly and still failed to sell.

Nintendo didn't know how to sell games that appealed to a mass market then. See bold.

The times have changed.


It seems that they forgot how to do that with the WiiU. And even with the 3DS, Brain Age and Nintendogs aren't as big as they used to be.



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I think a lot of people are overreacting in this thread. When any console maker is doing badly they get made fun of. Personally I think it's good that when a company gets arrogant it then gets taken down a couple of notches. It then forces them to come up with solutions and compete harder. Just look at Sony as the perfect example.

Sony launched a $600 dollar console which they expected people to get an extra job for if required to afford. Due to their hubris they were laid low until they finally were forced to become more consumer friendly and also made a massive investment into their 1st party studios and online network. All the while they maintained good 3rd party relations.

Even though I prefer Sony I like that there is competition as it benefits all gamers. We should have more solidarity as gamers and act less like tribals when it comes to the companies we like.

With regards to the guys on the panel some of their choice of words may have sounded anti Nintendo but in reality they are just pointing out the difficult position that Nintendo finds themselves in. I don't recall them saying anything which suggests that they want Nintendo to fail. It's as if constructive criticism automatically equates to people having an anti Nintendo agenda according to some people.



 

 

Mythmaker1 said:
They're not being vindictive, they're being dismissive.

As far as the majority of gaming journalists goes, the Wii U is a JOKE, not without good reason. And until Nintendo does something about that, it will continue to be a joke.


since when has a Nintendo console NOT been a joke to the industry and these journalist clowns? .. even when a Nintendo console is successful it was still a joke !  nothing has changed =)



 

spurgeonryan said:
Th3PANO said:

western arrogance will one day lead to another crisis, like the last time.


Are you talking about the fact that America was to blame for World War 2?

 

I think they should be reprimanded. Is this a big issue, or is the OP the only one who noticed or cared?


I think he is talking about the Video game crash of the 80's which was the Western Developer's fault because of absolutly having no regulation on quality or quanity, which funny is the same stance Apple and Google are taking with their mobile stores.

 

WWII wasn't just the US, but the entirity of the Alliance forces of WWI. Plus the fact that no one seemed to notice the problems there were reports and diagrams of concentration camps as early as 1936.



spurgeonryan said:
Well then that, I will blame on Mobile gaming, or Apple.

You could also just blame it on the catholics like the titanic disaster.

 

@mythmaker1. The reasons they gave for laughing at it were stupid. The console does represent a leap for Nintendo, and as long as there are games to make it a viable product, there is no good reason to laugh. They dismissed the importance of games in the viability of a console during their troll moment, or anything other than graphical power, and that is really invalid.



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Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Well the laughing part was somewhat silly perhaps, but the Wii U is kind of irrelevant in terms of 3rd party support when compared to the PS4 and 720, which is what they were laughing at.


they also talked about wii u not really being next gen, so i guess ps 2 wasn't next gen back then?

I don't think the difference in specs between the Xbox/Gamecube and the PS2 is of the same magnitude as the difference between Wii and PS3/360 or Wii U and PS4/720. The last comparison still needs to be confirmed when 720 specs are released and PS4 confirmed, but the Wii one for sure.

doesn't change the fact that 3rd party titles looked much worse on ps 2. yes, they don't get 3rd party support from ea. many others. but nobody even mentions the indy developers where nintendo is really doing a great job lately. more so then microsoft and sony to be honest. more and more aaa developers will fall.

There really wasn't that much of a different in 3rd party games for PS2, Xbox, and GC. I don't think Nintendo is doing that great with indy developers, maybe better than MS, but Sony is currently the leader in that field. Every indy developer has been praising them lately and they keep getting more and more games. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

happydolphin said:

You could also just blame it on the catholics like the titanic disaster.

That is not funny, man. Especially when the new pope just started this new bird flu epidemic. Reported.



I would laugh too, the Wii U is a joke of a console right now. 3rd parties have all but abandoned nintendo even after they said at E3 last year they said they had full cooperation of them. A next gen console already needing a price cut is bad news especially coming off the amazing Wii.

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To those people talking trash about Nintendo's relationship with indie developers... Do you want me to link about 20 recent articles that have indie developers praising Nintendo, articles that state Nintendo has pretty much gotten rid of all negative barriers they had in place for WiiWare, and articles stating they are handing out free dev kits and free patching?

I could but your arrogance would probably still shine.



BluGamer23 said:
Mythmaker1 said:
They're not being vindictive, they're being dismissive.

As far as the majority of gaming journalists goes, the Wii U is a JOKE, not without good reason. And until Nintendo does something about that, it will continue to be a joke.


since when has a Nintendo console NOT been a joke to the industry and these journalist clowns? .. even when a Nintendo console is successful it was still a joke !  nothing has changed =)


There's a difference between being a joke, and the butt of a joke. The Wii was the butt of the joke because...it was called the Wii, and the controller was goofy. Not bad, but certainly easy to make fun of.

The Wii U has all of that, and stunningly underwhelming sales. The Wii was easy to make fun of, but it was sucessful enough that people couldn't ignore it. That's not the case for the Wii U.



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