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Sony's FY2012 Earnings: $458m Profit (FY); 3.4m PS3+PS2 (Q4); 1.3m PSV+PSP (Q4)

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DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?



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Aside from the Ps3/Ps2 shipment number, just about everything else is poor,

Underlying financials are still bad even after rationalisation and improving yen situation. Tv's make big losses still (is that nine straight years now?), and mobiles are a money sink at the moment.

Needs to dramatically improve.



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Lawlight said:
DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?


Which doesn't affect profits by even one cent.  You do know that right?  Actually, I know you don't know that.  I've read your comments in this thread and its clear you don't understand the difference between a balance sheet and a P&L.

The money spent on buying things is just an asset swap. The profit raised from selling buildings however IS profit for the P & L account.  Buying assets such as Gaikai doesn't reduce profits. 

Dude.



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kowenicki said:
Aside from the Ps3/Ps2 shipment number, just about everything else is poor,

Underlying financials are still bad even after rationalisation and improving yen situation. Tv's make big losses still (is that nine straight years now?), and mobiles are a money sink at the moment.

Needs to dramatically improve.

Not great, but it is a profit.



pezus said:
kowenicki said:
Aside from the Ps3/Ps2 shipment number, just about everything else is poor,

Underlying financials are still bad even after rationalisation and improving yen situation. Tv's make big losses still (is that nine straight years now?), and mobiles are a money sink at the moment.

Needs to dramatically improve.

Not great, but it is a profit.

It's poor. 



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Lawlight said:
DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?


Even if they did, so?

Having all your profit based on the sale of a bulding rather then from the software/hardware is not good. 



It's just that simple.

kowenicki said:
Lawlight said:
DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?


Which doesn't affect profits by even one cent.  You do know that right?  Actually, I know you don't know that.  I've read your comments in this thread and its clear you don't understand the difference between a balance sheet and a P&L.

The money spent on buying things is just an asset swap. The profit raised from selling buildings however IS profit for the P & L account.  Buying assets such as Gaikai doesn't reduce profits. 

Dude.

Well, yeah. I'm not some bookeeper. So, in the link below, where does the building sales come in (is it in Others)?:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q4/slide/image/05_image.jpg

If so, how come they have the same revenue from Others this fiscal year as they did the last?



MonstaMack said:
Lawlight said:
DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?


Even if they did, so?

Having all your profit based on the sale of a bulding rather then from the software/hardware is not good. 


I dunno but if it's bad why has Sony's share price gone up by 63% since the beginning of the year?



Lawlight said:
MonstaMack said:
Lawlight said:
DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?


Even if they did, so?

Having all your profit based on the sale of a bulding rather then from the software/hardware is not good. 


I dunno but if it's bad why has Sony's share price gone up by 63% since the beginning of the year?


How do those share compared to 2-3 years ago when they were in the deep red?



It's just that simple.

MonstaMack said:
Lawlight said:
MonstaMack said:
Lawlight said:
DiscussionTime said:
458 million profit is due to the building sales right?


Dude, you realise that Sony spent way more in acquisitions, right?


Even if they did, so?

Having all your profit based on the sale of a bulding rather then from the software/hardware is not good. 


I dunno but if it's bad why has Sony's share price gone up by 63% since the beginning of the year?


How do those share compared to 2-3 years ago when they were in the deep red?


So, let me get this straight - it's not good but share prices have risen since last year nonetheless. Not sure if I would have thought that a YoY increase in share price means things are looking up. And I don't know about 2-3 years ago but somehow I doubt the share price rose YoY back then.