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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony's FY2012 Earnings: $458m Profit (FY); 3.4m PS3+PS2 (Q4); 1.3m PSV+PSP (Q4)

Max King of the Wild on 09 May 2013
ethomaz said:
Kaz Hirai will host a corporate strategy meeting on May 22.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/strategy2013/index.html


hopefully the announce ps2s are now officially discontinued and ps2 final amount



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phenom08 on 09 May 2013
pezus said:
phenom08 said:
pezus said:
phenom08 said:
I thought that 10 million forecast was for PS3 and PS2 ethomaz? Also according to each of their forecast Ninty expects WiiU to keep up with PS3 starting August and beyond if they expect to ship 9 million. Actually it sounds like Ninty expects WiiU to outsell it during the holidays because the PS3 will certainly kick its ass from now until atleast September.

It was only PS3. And yes, Nintendo expect big things this holiday likely because they have big games lined up. PS4 will be launching and will perhaps affect PS3 sales negatively a bit. I think it's very possible that Nintendo are expecting too much for the year though, because they would have to have a monster holiday with the way sales are going currently. And they will be going up against two new consoles.

Those two new consoles won't be a threat at all to Ninty. They will most likely be pretty expensive and no matter what their launch line ups are they don't have anything that can go toe to toe with two new Mario games. A price cut will also most likely be introduced so no the WiiUs only threat is the 360 and PS3 which won't affect WiiU either since they'll be selling to different fanbases. Do you not remember the Vita launch not affecting the 3DS at all? Because they sold to different fanbases and Vita sold pretty well at launch because it sold to different fanbases. I dont see why people think Ninty is expecting too much? If the WiiU doesn't have a monster holiday then Ninty's games have definitely decreased in popularity, it won't be because of the competing plats. They are selling to different fanbases especially this early in the gen. I highly doubt all of Ninty's fans have bought a WiiU yet.

I think they can make it if they cut the price pretty significantly too. Just saying why they might not make it. The new next gen consoles will have plenty of games on them right at launch, like a next gen CoD, BF, AC, Watch_Dogs, FIFA and their exclusives. The sheer number of titles and the "newness" factor of new hardware will do something to steal customers away from Nintendo.

Of course they will have plenty of games, they are Sony and Micro plats they will have games and great ones at that but they will be no threat to Ninty at all. The Wii proved that this past generation, its up to Ninty to move their platforms. Someone interested in Mario Kart are not going to care about how great Battlefield looks on PS4. All of them control their own destiny which was also proven this gen. Look at the fact that they all will sell more than 95 million.



phenom08 on 09 May 2013
ethomaz said:
phenom08 said:
How much did the PS3 ship last fy ethomaz?

13.9m PS3 / 4.1m PS2

63.9m PS3 lifetime / 155.1m PS2 lifetime

Did Sony mention the PS2 being down? I read they said only the PS2 wasn't down.



ethomaz on 09 May 2013
phenom08 said:

Did Sony mention the PS2 being down? I read they said only the PS2 wasn't down.


They said nothing about that but for the fiscal years PS3 + PS2 were down... just in the last quarter PS3 + PS2 were up.

ethomaz on 09 May 2013
phenom08 said:

Did Sony mention the PS2 being down? I read they said only the PS2 wasn't down.


They said nothing about that but for the fiscal years PS3 + PS2 were down... just in the last quarter PS3 + PS2 were up.

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phenom08 on 09 May 2013
ethomaz said:
phenom08 said:

Did Sony mention the PS2 being down? I read they said only the PS2 wasn't down.

They said nothing about that but for the fiscal years PS3 + PS2 were down... just in the last quarter PS3 + PS2 were up.

Ok thanks, so how much of that do you think belonged to PS3?



ethomaz on 09 May 2013

Why all my post are duplicated?



Max King of the Wild on 09 May 2013
phenom08 said:
ethomaz said:
phenom08 said:

Did Sony mention the PS2 being down? I read they said only the PS2 wasn't down.

They said nothing about that but for the fiscal years PS3 + PS2 were down... just in the last quarter PS3 + PS2 were up.

Ok thanks, so how much of that do you think belonged to PS3

Sony only shipped 900k in 4th quarter the previous year. I think it's generous to say the Ps2 matched that each quarter (though I have no clue why it would) putting the ps2 at 3.6mil and ps3 at 12.8mil. 1.1mil down YoY is reasonable considering they expect only 10mil ps3's this year. And if you think about it Sony would need to expect normal YoY drops in that number PLUS drops because of the Ps4/720 competition. So basically the drops they would incur this year will be greater than the drops they just incurred for the year. However, even if the Ps2 matched last years numbers (which again, I don't see why they would) the Ps3 wouold have shipped 12.3mil with a drop of 1.6mil. (Which would mean they would only expect the Ps4/720 to effect shipments by about 800k... which I would think it would be a little higher being the market is aching for new tech)

In short: 12.3million < Ps3 < 12.9million



ethomaz on 09 May 2013

@Lawlight

And now did you still believe PS2 was discontinued? 3.4m is only PS3 shipment? The best Q4 for a PlayStation console ever?

Remember... Sony never said that stopped the PS2 production.



ethomaz on 09 May 2013

lol

Jack Tretton was right after all - of course he knows the numbers - and PS3 shipment was close 77 million in February.

I can't call how many guy eat crow this time.