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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Following Twitter Tirade, Microsoft Creative Director Adam Orth No Longer With Microsoft

Lyrikalstylez said:

wouldnt it be ironic if he couldnt afford paying for online, so he couldnt play on the next box, I'd be all DEAL WITH IT FUCKER!! LOL



I don't normally do this but...



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kain_kusanagi said:
Let me get this straight.

A guy jokes with a buddy on twitter.

Fanboys go ape shit.

He explains it was in jest.

Fanboys continue to go ape shit.

He get's fired because fanboys went ape shit.

Fanboys will continue to go ape shit.



His life and the world would be a lot better if everyone would just ignore stupid fanboys and their stupid fanboy rants.

When you are in a position he is in, as a creative director, and what you say gets out and causes this much negative publicity for a company that was considering things you were saying and opposing it, such causes loss of spin and can get you fired.

What is stupid is this response to the no longer with Microsoft:

http://www.fastcompany.com/3008175/where-are-they-now/microsoft-creative-director-resigns-after-bashing-new-xbox-twitter

Someone writes he was being fired for being CRITICAL of the strategy?  Sheesh.  Now THAT is stupid.



bananaking21 said:


if he was fired for leaking info i understand that,its harsh but it would be in his contract and he shouldnt have said anything, its not really that hard. but if he was fired because of how people reacted then that is too much. 

Well, I think that Max actually says it all, so no need for me to just repeat what he says =)



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

sales2099 said:
Its things like this, coupled with voting EA for worst company, makes me detest the overall gaming internet community.

ZERO perspective on the big picture. Choosing EA when Bank of America rips off millions of families, and making this guy loose his career (and his ability to support his family) over twitter comments.

Oh c'mon sales! He really did deserve to get fired for that. In no way was that acceptable behavior.



I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!

Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

Seems harsh on paper to fire a guy over some loose talk on twitter I agree but... in truth I think it was more the fact he dismissed genuine concerns over "Always on" rumours with a crass and childish reply that showed contempt for the people living in the said areas. I thought it was funny but some people just have no humour and it cost him his job. Shame really.



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Squint_Eastwood said:
Seems harsh on paper to fire a guy over some loose talk on twitter I agree but... in truth I think it was more the fact he dismissed genuine concerns over "Always on" rumours with a crass and childish reply that showed contempt for the people living in the said areas. I thought it was funny but some people just have no humour and it cost him his job. Shame really.



The ones who mattered are the ones who didn't find it funny. And those are the ones who make tens of millions of dollars a year. And they make it through the people the guy dissmissed in his tweets. And they have every reason not to find humor in that



Max King of the Wild said:
Squint_Eastwood said:
Seems harsh on paper to fire a guy over some loose talk on twitter I agree but... in truth I think it was more the fact he dismissed genuine concerns over "Always on" rumours with a crass and childish reply that showed contempt for the people living in the said areas. I thought it was funny but some people just have no humour and it cost him his job. Shame really.



The ones who mattered are the ones who didn't find it funny. And those are the ones who make tens of millions of dollars a year. And they make it through the people the guy dissmissed in his tweets. And they have every reason not to find humor in that

When i said "some people" having no humour i was reffering to those who have spat venom at the man for his comments. They were petulant sure, but some of the responses hes had are uncalled for. Should he have been forced to stand down? I think so because of exactly what you said. 



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binary solo said:
No sympathy for the guy really. He was trolling.

If people haven't learned that Twitter is a public forum then they are idiots and even if it was meant as some private trolling. If you don't want it to be a headline don't put it on Twitter.

If he did put that stuff on Twitter knowing it would get out into the public then he's purposely trolling the Xbox fans, which if there's a sackable offence at MS for public stupidity it would be to troll the people who are a revenue source. If he was trolling Sony or PS4 or Wii U he would have got a promotion. People gotta know you don't shit in your own nest.

If he was pushed, it had nothing to do with getting fanboys in a lather and everything to do with potentially costing MS some revenue.

Ya.....trolling should get a guy fired and his family essentially ruined. Good call on judgement.

This just shows that gaming execs cant say anything thats not an official press release, and the official statements will HAVE to be obscure, and worded precisely, because we have thousands of people with nothing better to do then dissect every word, travel to the far reaches of the internet, just to find something to rage about next.

Now you're catching on. The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club. And yes, when a product has not been officially announce you absolutely don't talk out of school and you absolutely don't talk about a specific rumoured feature. And worse yet is trolling those who you hope to be customers. So he committed 3 corporate sins: talking publicly indirectly about Durango outside of official channels; implicit confirmation that a rumoured feature is a real thing, a feature that could get some people a bit pissed off so, if it is true the PR around it needs to be carefully managed, if the feature is not true then the fact he implied it was a thing is incomprehensible; trolling your customer base.

Get it right man, it's not simply trolling. Trolling your competition on Twitter = good, trolling your customer base on Twitter = bad. This isn't even employee 101 because it should be basic common sense. It's so basic there's even a cliche to go with it: don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Do I rejoice that he lost his job? absolutely not. After all I was unlikely to be Durango buyer so I have no reason to either be angry at the guy for what he did. And I don't know him so I can't either like or dislike him.

Do I think there were reasonable grounds for him to lose his job? Yes. Why do I think that? Because if I did a similar thing: going onto Twitter and trolling those who are our customer base; and talking about a not officially announced project outside of the official comms plan (and they will definitely 100% have a comms plan about Durango), and a specific, potentially controversial element of that project, which may more may not exist, I would absolutely 100% get sacked. I wouldn't be asked to resign, I wouldn't be given a chance to exit of my own accord. I'd be dragged in front of my director, given a massive bollocking and be shown the door. End of story.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

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binary solo said:
sales2099 said:
binary solo said:
No sympathy for the guy really. He was trolling.

If people haven't learned that Twitter is a public forum then they are idiots and even if it was meant as some private trolling. If you don't want it to be a headline don't put it on Twitter.

If he did put that stuff on Twitter knowing it would get out into the public then he's purposely trolling the Xbox fans, which if there's a sackable offence at MS for public stupidity it would be to troll the people who are a revenue source. If he was trolling Sony or PS4 or Wii U he would have got a promotion. People gotta know you don't shit in your own nest.

If he was pushed, it had nothing to do with getting fanboys in a lather and everything to do with potentially costing MS some revenue.

Ya.....trolling should get a guy fired and his family essentially ruined. Good call on judgement.

This just shows that gaming execs cant say anything thats not an official press release, and the official statements will HAVE to be obscure, and worded precisely, because we have thousands of people with nothing better to do then dissect every word, travel to the far reaches of the internet, just to find something to rage about next.

Now you're catching on. The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club. And yes, when a product has not been officially announce you absolutely don't talk out of school and you absolutely don't talk about a specific rumoured feature. And worse yet is trolling those who you hope to be customers. So he committed 3 corporate sins: talking publicly indirectly about Durango outside of official channels; implicit confirmation that a rumoured feature is a real thing, a feature that could get some people a bit pissed off so, if it is true the PR around it needs to be carefully managed, if the feature is not true then the fact he implied it was a thing is incomprehensible; trolling your customer base.

Get it right man, it's not simply trolling. Trolling your competition on Twitter = good, trolling your customer base on Twitter = bad. This isn't even employee 101 because it should be basic common sense. It's so basic there's even a cliche to go with it: don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Do I rejoice that he lost his job? absolutely not. After all I was unlikely to be Durango buyer so I have no reason to either be angry at the guy for what he did. And I don't know him so I can't either like or dislike him.

Do I think there were reasonable grounds for him to lose his job? Yes. Why do I think that? Because if I did a similar thing: going onto Twitter and trolling those who are our customer base; and talking about a not officially announced project outside of the official comms plan (and they will definitely 100% have a comms plan about Durango), and a specific, potentially controversial element of that project, which may more may not exist, I would absolutely 100% get sacked. I wouldn't be asked to resign, I wouldn't be given a chance to exit of my own accord. I'd be dragged in front of my director, given a massive bollocking and be shown the door. End of story.



Most jobs I know of have an armed guard escort you to the door or even car. Your job is nice that they just show you the door.



bananaking21 said:
congratulations people because he told some guy to "deal with it" on twitter the guy lost his job, and his career is fucked up. im sure his family thinks this guy got what he deserves and is very happy with the situation. what a jerk...

Blame the angry mob over on NeoGaf.