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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - UPDATE! vgleaks: Microsoft Xbox Roadmap (2013) - possible bc, online not required, used games allowed

Jaywood2010 on 10 April 2013
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:


I am not your son, keep watching your tone. And perhaps read again "149$ or lower" - we don't know the price yet and it's of course easily changed by MS. Actually, all the rumors saying always on and no used games was stingray, after all. Doesn't affect NextBox. Good.

Hey, you can believe whatever you want. All I do is provide an analysis and a prediction. I predicted the stingray was the settop box known as xbox tv. The title of the thread was "Is this the MS SKU Stingray".

I got as much right as I did wrong, and that's better than anyone in the other stingray threads had done.

Well nothing has been confirmed yet but this seems more belieavable than the stuff we've been recieving.  If you end up being correct ill come back and congratulate you 




       

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NiKKoM on 10 April 2013
hasonap said:
NiKKoM said:

It's easy how it works.. if there is a negative rumour for the next xbox we believe them if there is a positive one we don't.. you have been on this site long enough to know this..

Sure I get that but come on somewhere a line gets drawn on how much you can change on your console in a 2months period, a more believable option is that MS has had let's just say 4 different concepts as to how they wanted to execute the 720 and we are now seeing that after Sony put their cards on the table MS changed card(concept) and basically put a different card out.


I don't think they changed their strategy much after the Sony card.. it's more that bits and parts are leaked out and no one got the bigger picture and put an negative anti MS spin on it.. some would have gotten some leaks on the new360 others on durango.. this would mould some rumors nicely together.. I think it's pretty impossible to create the concept of a new360 working together with Durango within 2 months..



 

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badgenome on 10 April 2013
kain_kusanagi said:

Believe it or not there seems to be plenty of rival fans that would love for MS to implode. It's crazy I know, but true. The old Nextbox rumors read like a bitter Sony Fanboy's Christmas wish list.

Their dreams of hurrrr durrrr durrrr sonydominationz would be rudely interrupted by the fact that all multiplatform games would probably be always-on on PS4 as well.



sales2099 on 10 April 2013
badgenome said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I will continue to wait for the real announcement, but these rumors do make more sense than the laughable ones before. For some reason there were people that seemed to want to believe that MS would shoot themselves in the foot that they refused to consider that rumors aren't confirmation.

I sincerely doubt anyone wants to believe those awful rumors.

Haters?



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walsufnir on 10 April 2013
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
Who called this 2 days ago, and had his thread locked? Me, that's who.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=158444
Though, the early rumor said it would be 99$ and not support 360 games, I did say no disc drive. 149$ and plays games makes sense given the wii slim's function.

That said, I'm not upset that my thread was locked. Just gloating.


Your thread was based on an article dated 2012/11/21, this is 2013/04/10 and this also says that the small 360 can play 360 games.

I called that the stingray was this exact set-top box, and I also predicted it would not have a hard-drive.

The only thing that was wrong was the no-playing games, but 99$ and no games is virtually the same as 149$ that plays games. Stay mad.

That's how analysis is done, son.


I am not your son, keep watching your tone. And perhaps read again "149$ or lower" - we don't know the price yet and it's of course easily changed by MS. Actually, all the rumors saying always on and no used games was stingray, after all. Doesn't affect NextBox. Good.

Hey, you can believe whatever you want. All I do is provide an analysis and a prediction. I predicted the stingray was the settop box known as xbox tv. The title of the thread was "Is this the MS SKU Stingray".

I got as much right as I did wrong, and that's better than anyone in the other stingray threads had done.

No this was mentioned in your quote, not your analysis.

This is what you quoted: "We're told that the set-top box is part of a two-SKU strategy for Microsoft's next-generation of Xbox hardware that will be unveiled in 2013" This has nothing to do with any prediction or analysis you made. It's the source itself saying it. Predicting the "name" is not really an acomplishment :)

But let's stop arguing and be happy that all this talking about NextBox was mostly wrong, good for gamers!



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J_Allard on 10 April 2013
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
Who called this 2 days ago, and had his thread locked? Me, that's who.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=158444
Though, the early rumor said it would be 99$ and not support 360 games, I did say no disc drive. 149$ and plays games makes sense given the wii slim's function.

That said, I'm not upset that my thread was locked. Just gloating.


Your thread was based on an article dated 2012/11/21, this is 2013/04/10 and this also says that the small 360 can play 360 games.

I called that the stingray was this exact set-top box, and I also predicted it would not have a hard-drive.

The only thing that was wrong was the no-playing games, but 99$ and no games is virtually the same as 149$ that plays games. Stay mad.

That's how analysis is done, son.


lol @ bolded. You got a huge component and price of it wrong. All you really got "right" was what a months old article was saying and what has been rumored and leaked since anyway.

Nice try though, Pachter.



nightsurge on 10 April 2013
badgenome said:
Please be true.

*Strokes softly and sings "Soft Kitty" to badgenome*



sales2099 on 10 April 2013
theprof00 said:
Oh, and walufsnir, I am also the only person in the rumors threads who were saying the "no used games" and "always online" were completely untrue, and likely spread by MS itself. Just go look at those threads. I'm literally the only person saying they're fake, and probably just marketing that draws attention away from ps4 talk, and sets the bar low for MS to come out with a console that is unhindered by the rumors and wows everyone.
I called that too.

Sorry but the idea of "drawing attention away from PS4" and "setting the bar low for real info to blow us away" is just the work of Anti Microsoft fans, many of whcih are just Sony fans, riding the hate train rumors. This is their own creation, and it will be them retreating from the forums in silence when the real announcements proves them all wrong.

MS is literaly doing nothing while the internet is creating its own shitstorm.



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walsufnir on 10 April 2013
theprof00 said:
Oh, and walufsnir, I am also the only person in the rumors threads who were saying the "no used games" and "always online" were completely untrue, and likely spread by MS itself. Just go look at those threads. I'm literally the only person saying they're fake, and probably just marketing that draws attention away from ps4 talk, and sets the bar low for MS to come out with a console that is unhindered by the rumors and wows everyone.
I called that too.


Did I accuse you of saying otherwise? A lot of people behaved otherwise but this is also ok - that's why this forum exists.



hasonap on 10 April 2013
NiKKoM said:
hasonap said:
NiKKoM said:

It's easy how it works.. if there is a negative rumour for the next xbox we believe them if there is a positive one we don't.. you have been on this site long enough to know this..

Sure I get that but come on somewhere a line gets drawn on how much you can change on your console in a 2months period, a more believable option is that MS has had let's just say 4 different concepts as to how they wanted to execute the 720 and we are now seeing that after Sony put their cards on the table MS changed card(concept) and basically put a different card out.


I don't think they changed their strategy much after the Sony card.. it's more that bits and parts are leaked out and no one got the bigger picture and put an negative anti MS spin on it.. some would have gotten some leaks on the new360 others on durango.. this would mould some rumors nicely together.. I think it's pretty impossible to create the concept of a new360 working together with Durango within 2 months..

Good point, all those previous rumors align together but they were never getting pushed apart from being either a 360mini or 720 rumor, so yeah Good point