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BasilZero said:
Slimebeast said:

Laughable report by DFC (the article on Gamesindustrybiz btw is now updated disputing these claims).

Last time I was at my local internet gaming café in February, over 20 out of 30 people there were playing LOL. Nobody was playing Dota 2.


Isnt that because you need Steam on the computer to play the game while LoL doesnt require a third party client along with its own installation files o.o?

But this café seems to run nearly all of their games through Steam.



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NYANKS said:
Kasz216 said:
Phoenix_Wiight said:
PLEASE, that article is completely false and has absolutely ZERO credibility. Don't fall for it. Another fake article like this one was popping up today.


LoL has an average on 5 MILLION users on at once- Dota2 has an average of 300,000- it doesn't even come close.


and yet we couldn't even get together 5 people for a VGchartz ranked team...

I'd be willing to play, when was this happening?!

Also, this report is can't be right.

Oh, it was a while back when Final-Fan had a league of Legends thread here.  Think we had 3-4 people, and almost everyone was well below actually bein anything that'd rank well.  (I know wasn't great.)

 

That said if we have a number of LoL players someone should throw a vgchartz team together for fun.

I haven't played LoL in a little bit myself... but do find it a ton of fun.  I'm trying to get as invested in DOTA but it's just not working, the graphics just don't pop as much, and because i haven't played Dota 1, the noticeable delays before the characters do what i want seem to foreign to me.

I think Dota 2 might be a little too traditional to the point of where they are specifically nerfing the game so it plays like it was on old hardware.   Which is just a weird choice to me.  So i might get back into Lol.  Heard they redid the jungle though.



So the two biggest PC games and I've never played either...did not see that coming a decade ago.



Kasz216 said:
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I think Dota 2 might be a little too traditional to the point of where they are specifically nerfing the game so it plays like it was on old hardware.   Which is just a weird choice to me.  So i might get back into Lol.  Heard they redid the jungle though.

They changed it so more people can jungle, but you get a lot lower on health so you usually need help on blue or red first.

The big upcoming thing is a matchmade queue for ARAM.



  Heard they redid the jungle though.


The jungle change isn't really that noticeable. Everything is still laid out the same as before, they just made the jungle creeps a bit tougher, but they offset that by adding a new starting item (machete) that gives you bonuses vs creeps. Riot's intent was to open up jungling as a viable option for more champions, but it really didn't change a thing. The only real difference is that ganking is a bit harder early on because you end up with slightly lower health by the time you're done clearing the jungle than you would be before they redid it.



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Funtime said:
I'm actually a little surprised by this. LoL still seems far more popular on streaming sites like twitch.tv. Typically LoL doubles Dota 2 viewership on a regular basis.

While I Don't agree that DOTA 2 is larger than LoL seeing as how it is tecnically stil lin beta phase, the streaming will always be misleading because DOTA 2 has a much more refined spectator mode with all the features of watching a stream but doing it all in game.



Booyah said:
Funtime said:
I'm actually a little surprised by this. LoL still seems far more popular on streaming sites like twitch.tv. Typically LoL doubles Dota 2 viewership on a regular basis.

While I Don't agree that DOTA 2 is larger than LoL seeing as how it is tecnically stil lin beta phase, the streaming will always be misleading because DOTA 2 has a much more refined spectator mode with all the features of watching a stream but doing it all in game.


What features does DOTA 2's spectator mode offer that LoL's doesn't? I'm curious as I haven't played DOTA 2 yet. I can't imagine it allows the players to interact with the viewers in any way, though, which is what draws a lot of people to streaming as opposed to spectating. Can you hear what the players on saying on their mics or anything like that in DOTA 2 spectator mode?



Funtime said:
Booyah said:
Funtime said:
I'm actually a little surprised by this. LoL still seems far more popular on streaming sites like twitch.tv. Typically LoL doubles Dota 2 viewership on a regular basis.

While I Don't agree that DOTA 2 is larger than LoL seeing as how it is tecnically stil lin beta phase, the streaming will always be misleading because DOTA 2 has a much more refined spectator mode with all the features of watching a stream but doing it all in game.


What features does DOTA 2's spectator mode offer that LoL's doesn't? I'm curious as I haven't played DOTA 2 yet. I can't imagine it allows the players to interact with the viewers in any way, though, which is what draws a lot of people to streaming as opposed to spectating. Can you hear what the players on saying on their mics or anything like that in DOTA 2 spectator mode?

You can watch the game from any players perspective or free watch, you can see the player chat but not hear them talk, but each game can have in game broadcasters that all spectators can hear.

Most of the big tournaments cost a small fee to watch in the game, but the big one called the International was free to watch and was cool cause you could change to your own perspective, or broadcaster's/players perpective, and broadcaters can write on the map for the spectators to see. It really is quite a marvel to watch and I hope more competitive games use this model in the future.

PS. You can also buy support banners for your favorite team and if you watch the team win, you can win items.



Booyah said:
Funtime said:
Booyah said:
Funtime said:
I'm actually a little surprised by this. LoL still seems far more popular on streaming sites like twitch.tv. Typically LoL doubles Dota 2 viewership on a regular basis.

While I Don't agree that DOTA 2 is larger than LoL seeing as how it is tecnically stil lin beta phase, the streaming will always be misleading because DOTA 2 has a much more refined spectator mode with all the features of watching a stream but doing it all in game.


What features does DOTA 2's spectator mode offer that LoL's doesn't? I'm curious as I haven't played DOTA 2 yet. I can't imagine it allows the players to interact with the viewers in any way, though, which is what draws a lot of people to streaming as opposed to spectating. Can you hear what the players on saying on their mics or anything like that in DOTA 2 spectator mode?

You can watch the game from any players perspective or free watch, you can see the player chat but not hear them talk, but each game can have in game broadcasters that all spectators can hear.

Most of the big tournaments cost a small fee to watch in the game, but the big one called the International was free to watch and was cool cause you could change to your own perspective, or broadcaster's/players perpective, and broadcaters can write on the map for the spectators to see. It really is quite a marvel to watch and I hope more competitive games use this model in the future.

PS. You can also buy support banners for your favorite team and if you watch the team win, you can win items.

That sounds pretty cool, especially for tournaments, but I think for everyday gaming streaming will continue to be a more popular choice for a lot of people just because of the interaction it allows with their favourite players.

I definitely want to experience that DOTA 2 tournament spectator mode, as being able to choose who you are focused on is a great feature. I hate watching a tourny on stream and having a couple of tards operating the spectator mode and missing important plays, or focusing the camera on boring champions that I don't care to watch.



Funtime said:
Booyah said:
Funtime said:
Booyah said:
Funtime said:
I'm actually a little surprised by this. LoL still seems far more popular on streaming sites like twitch.tv. Typically LoL doubles Dota 2 viewership on a regular basis.

While I Don't agree that DOTA 2 is larger than LoL seeing as how it is tecnically stil lin beta phase, the streaming will always be misleading because DOTA 2 has a much more refined spectator mode with all the features of watching a stream but doing it all in game.


What features does DOTA 2's spectator mode offer that LoL's doesn't? I'm curious as I haven't played DOTA 2 yet. I can't imagine it allows the players to interact with the viewers in any way, though, which is what draws a lot of people to streaming as opposed to spectating. Can you hear what the players on saying on their mics or anything like that in DOTA 2 spectator mode?

You can watch the game from any players perspective or free watch, you can see the player chat but not hear them talk, but each game can have in game broadcasters that all spectators can hear.

Most of the big tournaments cost a small fee to watch in the game, but the big one called the International was free to watch and was cool cause you could change to your own perspective, or broadcaster's/players perpective, and broadcaters can write on the map for the spectators to see. It really is quite a marvel to watch and I hope more competitive games use this model in the future.

PS. You can also buy support banners for your favorite team and if you watch the team win, you can win items.

That sounds pretty cool, especially for tournaments, but I think for everyday gaming streaming will continue to be a more popular choice for a lot of people just because of the interaction it allows with their favourite players.

I definitely want to experience that DOTA 2 tournament spectator mode, as being able to choose who you are focused on is a great feature. I hate watching a tourny on stream and having a couple of tards operating the spectator mode and missing important plays, or focusing the camera on boring champions that I don't care to watch.

For individuals who want to stream its fine. I was just addressing the issue about more people streaming on LoL instead of DOTA 2, cause I use the spectator mode for all but the tournaments now, cause I don't want to pay to watch a tournament, but the tournaments are all streamed on joindota.com anyways.

 

To be fair I watch games  more as a training tool and less as following certain players I like.