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kitler53 said:
JayWood2010 said:

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"Xbox will be subsidized by services like comcast and verizon."

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everything is plausible but that to me.  i just can't see comcast playing nice with MS (read: anyone).


He used it as an example.  Watch the video.  He even states that it is an example.




       

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platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.




       

JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55




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platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55


Now tell me how the other 6.4 billion people do it?  Let's be honest here.  Most people doesnt even know you can plug your computer into your TV.  Second off most people doesnt want to drag their desktop to their TV.




       

JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55


Now tell me how the other 6.4 billion people do it?  Let's be honest here.  Most people doesnt even know you can plug your computer into your TV.  Second off most people doesnt want to drag their desktop to their TV.

well there's this brilliant invention called a laptop that was just invented so you don't have to drag a desktop to your tv.  Last I heard more than a few people had them.  Basically every kid I know knows how to do this and a good number of parents and it's not normally because they're gamers (showing vacation photos and such).  Also it's "don't want to" not "doesn't want to" but that's irrelevant.




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platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55


Now tell me how the other 6.4 billion people do it?  Let's be honest here.  Most people doesnt even know you can plug your computer into your TV.  Second off most people doesnt want to drag their desktop to their TV.

well there's this brilliant invention called a laptop that was just invented so you don't have to drag a desktop to your tv.  Last I heard more than a few people had them.  Basically every kid I know knows how to do this and a good number of parents and it's not normally because they're gamers (showing vacation photos and such).  Also it's "don't want to" not "doesn't want to" but that's irrelevant.

ONce again because you can does that mean people know you can? ( You seem to be ignoring that part)  Stop thinking like you are a typical person who walks into a store and buys an xbox. And once again people are not going to want to take their laptops plus cords every where they go to plug int into your TV.  That is a hassle.  When you have something that is always connected to your TV like the Xbox is it will be a press of a button to reach Skype.




       

Rafux said:
goddog said:
Rafux said:
"Things I don't believe is Always connected and used games. I think people are reading that wrong"

Well that settles it.


Nooooooo! well i best buy dual wan router and get secondary network service in case of failure of the primary 


Or buy a PS4

Until its realized they are doing the same....



JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55


Now tell me how the other 6.4 billion people do it?  Let's be honest here.  Most people doesnt even know you can plug your computer into your TV.  Second off most people doesnt want to drag their desktop to their TV.

well there's this brilliant invention called a laptop that was just invented so you don't have to drag a desktop to your tv.  Last I heard more than a few people had them.  Basically every kid I know knows how to do this and a good number of parents and it's not normally because they're gamers (showing vacation photos and such).  Also it's "don't want to" not "doesn't want to" but that's irrelevant.

ONce again because you can does that mean people know you can? ( You seem to be ignoring that part)  Stop thinking like you are a typical person who walks into a store and buys an xbox. And once again people are not going to want to take their laptops plus cords every where they go to plug int into your TV.  That is a hassle.  When you have something that is always connected to your TV like the Xbox is it will be a press of a button to reach Skype.

it's one cord.  It's about the same difficulty as plugging in your charge cable to your laptop on one end and the outlet on the other.  I'm not forgetting that part I keep repeating that most of the typical people you're talking about can do this.  I know because I know a lot of non gamers.  Did you even read my post?  Heck even my cousins from Mississippi who don't know crap about tech were showing us their vacation photos by hooking up a laptop to the TV.  Yeah it's more convenient but I'm not going to call it a "killer app" when most people who would be interested in a game console would know how to do this.  Maybe instead of saying of saying that I'm ingnoring a part you should actually read what I'm saying.  Just a thought.




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platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55


Now tell me how the other 6.4 billion people do it?  Let's be honest here.  Most people doesnt even know you can plug your computer into your TV.  Second off most people doesnt want to drag their desktop to their TV.

well there's this brilliant invention called a laptop that was just invented so you don't have to drag a desktop to your tv.  Last I heard more than a few people had them.  Basically every kid I know knows how to do this and a good number of parents and it's not normally because they're gamers (showing vacation photos and such).  Also it's "don't want to" not "doesn't want to" but that's irrelevant.

ONce again because you can does that mean people know you can? ( You seem to be ignoring that part)  Stop thinking like you are a typical person who walks into a store and buys an xbox. And once again people are not going to want to take their laptops plus cords every where they go to plug int into your TV.  That is a hassle.  When you have something that is always connected to your TV like the Xbox is it will be a press of a button to reach Skype.

it's one cord.  It's about the same difficulty as plugging in your charge cable to your laptop on one end and the outlet on the other.  I'm not forgetting that part I keep repeating that most of the typical people you're talking about can do this.  I know because I know a lot of non gamers.  Did you even read my post?  Heck even my cousins from Mississippi who don't know crap about tech were showing us their vacation photos by hooking up a laptop to the TV.  Yeah it's more convenient but I'm not going to call it a "killer app" when most people who would be interested in a game console would know how to do this.  Maybe instead of saying of saying that I'm ingnoring a part you should actually read what I'm saying.  Just a thought.


We are going to see eye to eye on this. And no not exactly.  Not everybody can just plug it into the front of their TV.  Some TV's has it in the back or the top, etc.People may have to manuever around to even access the HDMI port due to their entertainment centers or maybe they have it on a wall mount.  Tons of variables.  I was a computer technician to a pretty big company and I've dealt with typical users.  They know nothing about technology beyond turning it on and accessing what they have to use.




       

JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
dsgrue3 said:
"Having Skype on TV in the living room is a killer app. It will give parents a reason to adopt it. Kids will use it as an argument to buy the xbox."

Can't help but laugh as I shake my head at this.

yeah I can do skype on my computer and it works fine.  I can also do it on any mobile device or do facetime.  I can also hook up my computer to the TV with HDMI and enjoy that.  Don't see how it's a killer app.


Do you think kids parents plug their computer into the TV.  Stop thinking like a hardcroe gamer for once and look at this from a real world's perspective.

my dad does it just fine and he never plays games and is 55


Now tell me how the other 6.4 billion people do it?  Let's be honest here.  Most people doesnt even know you can plug your computer into your TV.  Second off most people doesnt want to drag their desktop to their TV.

well there's this brilliant invention called a laptop that was just invented so you don't have to drag a desktop to your tv.  Last I heard more than a few people had them.  Basically every kid I know knows how to do this and a good number of parents and it's not normally because they're gamers (showing vacation photos and such).  Also it's "don't want to" not "doesn't want to" but that's irrelevant.

ONce again because you can does that mean people know you can? ( You seem to be ignoring that part)  Stop thinking like you are a typical person who walks into a store and buys an xbox. And once again people are not going to want to take their laptops plus cords every where they go to plug int into your TV.  That is a hassle.  When you have something that is always connected to your TV like the Xbox is it will be a press of a button to reach Skype.

it's one cord.  It's about the same difficulty as plugging in your charge cable to your laptop on one end and the outlet on the other.  I'm not forgetting that part I keep repeating that most of the typical people you're talking about can do this.  I know because I know a lot of non gamers.  Did you even read my post?  Heck even my cousins from Mississippi who don't know crap about tech were showing us their vacation photos by hooking up a laptop to the TV.  Yeah it's more convenient but I'm not going to call it a "killer app" when most people who would be interested in a game console would know how to do this.  Maybe instead of saying of saying that I'm ingnoring a part you should actually read what I'm saying.  Just a thought.


We are going to see eye to eye on this. And no not exactly.  Not everybody can just plug it into the front of their TV.  Some TV's has it in the back or the top, etc.People may have to manuever around to even access the HDMI port due to their entertainment centers or maybe they have it on a wall mount.  Tons of variables.  I was a computer technician to a pretty big company and I've dealt with typical users.  They know nothing about technology beyond turning it on and accessing what they have to use.

Of course even assuming that there are enough people that would not know to do it to make it a killer app there are still variables like

Is it that big of a deal to have it on the big screen instead of the computer?

Will enough people want to buy an Xbox specifically for that or would it be a secondary thing once you already have the console?

Sorry but I view capturing gameplay and putting it on youtube as a much more cumbersome process than plugging an HDMI cord into a TV and most new TVs have a Skype app that people could just use don't they?  I believe bluray players have them too nowadays so it's not even going to be the easiest way to do it.




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