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Forums - Sony Discussion - Tales PS Vita games haven’t been brought to North America due to poor sales

Vita sales:

Japan - 1.40 mil
Europe - 1.40 mil
NA - 1.38 mil
Rest - 0.31 mil

Yeah, the sales in the West are clearly too pathetic to grant us a game...



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Scisca said:
Vita sales:

Japan - 1.40 mil
Europe - 1.40 mil
NA - 1.38 mil
Rest - 0.31 mil

Yeah, the sales in the West are clearly too pathetic to grant us a game...


Well the Tales franchise is a lot more popular there.

And the portable entrants aren't selling godly amounts there either. 



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Why waste money?



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They should release them for 3DS. Is the only handheld capable of selling games at the moment.



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Otakumegane said:
007BondAgent said:
i refuse to get a vita until a tales game is released on it :(


Huh thought you'd  have one by now to play FFX.


it's on PS3 though

i really want a vita though, persona and playing PS1 games are nearly enough to justify the price, just wished tales were on it :(



Otakumegane said:
Scisca said:
Vita sales:

Japan - 1.40 mil
Europe - 1.40 mil
NA - 1.38 mil
Rest - 0.31 mil

Yeah, the sales in the West are clearly too pathetic to grant us a game...


Well the Tales franchise is a lot more popular there.

And the portable entrants aren't selling godly amounts there either. 

That and North America has 3x as many people as Japan.



Otakumegane said:
Scisca said:
Vita sales:

Japan - 1.40 mil
Europe - 1.40 mil
NA - 1.38 mil
Rest - 0.31 mil

Yeah, the sales in the West are clearly too pathetic to grant us a game...


Well the Tales franchise is a lot more popular there.

And the portable entrants aren't selling godly amounts there either. 

Soriku said:
 

Tales is much more popular in Japan and the Tales games on the Vita didn't sell much, so you can imagine how they'd sell over here...

The Tales series doesn't sell well in Japan either.  Not just the Vita titles.  The Vita titles just sold really poorly.  They'd sell way more in the US, that's for sure.

Here are sales figures of all the latest Tales games in the west and Japan.

Tales of the World Radiant Mythology.  US: 160,000  JP: 230,000
Tales of Vesperia 360.  US: 270,000  EU: 140,000  JP360: 190,000  JPPS3:  420,000  ROW: 50,000
Tales of Symphonia 2.  US:  220,000  EU: 20,000  JP: 240,000  ROW: 20,000
Tales of Graces F.  US: 200,000  EU: 80,000  JP:  420,000  ROW: 40,000

Now I didn't add Tales of Graces Wii sales like I did the Vesperia PS3 sales, but if you look at the sales numbers, the numbers in Japan aren't that much higher than everywhere else.  Radiant Mythology has a difference of 70,000.  Vesperia sold way more in the US and Europe than it did in Japan for the 360.  Then it was released for the PS3 and we didn't even get a chance to see how it would sell here, but if you look at the combined sales of the 360 version in the west it's still not far off.  Symphonia Dawn of the New World sold more in other regions than it did in Japan.  Tales of Graces F is again not too far behind.

Namco Bandai just has wild expectations for sales in the west.  The series sells poorly in Japan compared to most big name RPG franchises.  They actually have to develop the game in Japan for those poor sales.  In the west all they'd have to do is localize the games for over half the sales they've received in Japan.  I think other publishers have even displayed interest in doing so but they wouldn't have been able to get the license to publish.

There could only be two possible reasons for Namco Bandai to not publish the Tales games.

Namco Bandai hates the west.  I think this one true.  Why else would they keep localizing Gundam Musou games and not anything good?  /sarcasm.

They don't like money.  I think this is also true.



MDMAlliance said:
Otakumegane said:
Scisca said:
Vita sales:

Japan - 1.40 mil
Europe - 1.40 mil
NA - 1.38 mil
Rest - 0.31 mil

Yeah, the sales in the West are clearly too pathetic to grant us a game...


Well the Tales franchise is a lot more popular there.

And the portable entrants aren't selling godly amounts there either. 

That and North America has 3x as many people as Japan.

All this doesn't change the fact that he said Vita isn't doing good enough. C'mon, before the price cut Japan was the last region in sales! They managed to get ahead of NA and on par with Europe only thanks to the recent push Sony made, they may easily fall back to the last place if Sony cuts the price in the West soon. West is outselling Japan 2:1 and still that's too few Vitas for them just to translate the bloody game? It's Vita, they can just translate it and put the game on the PS Store, I'm sure the sales will top the costs of localisation. If they feel extra insecure about the sales, they could even leave the Japanese voices and just translate the subtitles (though I wouldn't like this). Still, this sounds like a really stupid decision. They are just running away from possible profit for no real reason at all.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca said:

All this doesn't change the fact that he said Vita isn't doing good enough. C'mon, before the price cut Japan was the last region in sales! They managed to get ahead of NA and on par with Europe only thanks to the recent push Sony made, they may easily fall back to the last place if Sony cuts the price in the West soon. West is outselling Japan 2:1 and still that's too few Vitas for them just to translate the bloody game? It's Vita, they can just translate it and put the game on the PS Store, I'm sure the sales will top the costs of localisation. If they feel extra insecure about the sales, they could even leave the Japanese voices and just translate the subtitles (though I wouldn't like this). Still, this sounds like a really stupid decision. They are just running away from possible profit for no real reason at all.


"Possible". Likely it won't do well enough at all.

If companies like Square and Nintendo won't release niche Japanese games on the basis of "possible" (Lol no 100%) profit, what makes you think a company like Namco will release a niche handheld JPRG that didn't even sell or was reviewed that well in Japan in the 1st place?

They don't owe you anything. The bottom line is that the game won't sell well enough for them to consider localizing it. Besides I'm sure Sony will cut the price in the West right after they get a decent shooter on it. 



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