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amp316 said:

It's a combination of what Soriku and Carl said.

We also let anyone join here and don't have a country club style approval process. See, it's more fun when you can actually talk about GAF.

If we keep getting bullied by them, no one will take us seriously. We gotta stand up for ourselves.

Lead us to our glory amp, let's start kicking some filthy buttocks



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Soriku said:
amp316 said:

It's actually because Brett (ioi) has some bad history with them, but I'm not telling that story...


Isn't it because of sales numbers he posted that they didn't trust? So it all goes back to numbers anyway.

That's one way of putting it.  Another way of putting it is that they were fairly accurate and showing that Sony was being crushed by Nintendo at the time... 



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You can talk about vgc but not use vgc numbers. Owner of this site used to be part of sales age there.



amp316 said:
Soriku said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Would be a waste of time. If they want to be ignorant then let them be as it is always better to take the high road. Although, can someone explain as to why they have such a "hate on" for this site?


Unreliable sales numbers from VGC.

It's actually because Brett (ioi) has some bad history with them, but I'm not telling that story...

Probably proved some mods wrong with numbers?



Turkish said:
You can talk about vgc but not use vgc numbers. Owner of this site used to be part of sales age there.


sales age?

 

ps: oh sales "P"age, got it!



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The simple answer is that we've never banned discussion of any non-pornographic site on VGC as far as I recall. And personally that's the way I'd prefer it stay.



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They are mad because VGC split from the site and has become its own popular website.

Even though Gaf is much bigger I expect VGC to be far more profitable with ads alone.



Deyon said:
amp316 said:

It's a combination of what Soriku and Carl said.

We also let anyone join here and don't have a country club style approval process. See, it's more fun when you can actually talk about GAF.

If we keep getting bullied by them, no one will take us seriously. We gotta stand up for ourselves.

Lead us to our glory amp, let's start kicking some filthy buttocks

The guys from Survivor actually grew up a couple of miles from me.  I have met Jim Peterik (the guy behind the keyboard that wrote that song) a few times and he's a really cool and humble guy that hangs out with "normal" people.  

Anyways, I don't talk that much trash about GAF because I don't see the point.  Long story short : Brett left there and created this site.  Here we are.



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amp316 said:
Soriku said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Would be a waste of time. If they want to be ignorant then let them be as it is always better to take the high road. Although, can someone explain as to why they have such a "hate on" for this site?


Unreliable sales numbers from VGC.

It's actually because Brett (ioi) has some bad history with them, but I'm not telling that story...

That is not only that... the battle between gaf and ioi was happened before PS3 or Wii was launched... VGC was created by ioi to confirm to GAF that his estimations were reliable and accurate.

But the numbers in VGC never proved to be accurate (the contrary happened) and all the adjustments (overtracked, undertracked) help to make the VGC even more like a joke in GAF than a trusted source.

ioi was banned from GAF because it was a troll (sorry).

After that a lot of users in VGC caused trouble in GAF trying to use the VGC numbers there... this happened over and over so the GAF decided to ban any alussion to VGC numbers... they works only with OFFICIAL numbers released by companies or OFFICIAL trackers like NPD, Media Create, etc.

In fact the numbers in GAF was always more accurate than VGC... VGC uses a lot os numbers released by GAF to make adjustments here but VGC had a good weekly estimation... so it is funny and ioi adjust the numbers when the official one are released.

So if you want a good weekly estimation for the VG sales... use VGC... but it is that... only estimations.

I'm here because I like to talk about these estimations every week but VGC will be never a trusted source for sales .

ANYWAY: Talk about vgchartz in GAF is not banable... use we numbers there is banable.

 

-This user was moderated for calling ioi a troll.  Do I need to say more? 



pezus said:
Torillian said:
The simple answer is that we've never banned discussion of any non-pornographic site on VGC as far as I recall. And personally that's the way I'd prefer it stay.

Torrent sites, actually. And ROM sites

You are banned from my threads. Be gone...