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Ban/Regulate Junk Food?

YES, DO everything you can 15 18.07%
 
YES, but just tax it 6 7.23%
 
YES ban HFCS/Corn Fillers 4 4.82%
 
YES regulate HFCS/Corn Fillers 1 1.20%
 
YES remove the Corn Subsidy 5 6.02%
 
YES regulate salt content of food 2 2.41%
 
YES other reasons/combination of above 4 4.82%
 
Maybe, Unsure 2 2.41%
 
NO WAY!!!!! 39 46.99%
 
See Results 5 6.02%
 
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Michael-5 said:
Baalzamon said:
Michael-5 said:

What the heck is a PSS?

I know pop has anywhere between 40-90mg of Na per 335ml (12 oz) can. You need 1,500mg of salt a day, so a pop can ranges from 2-4.5% of your salt intake. Salt-Water is 3.5% salt. Pop has anywhere from half to nearly one and a half times the salt of saltwater.

Can you live on saltwater? No.

Random google searches tell me that the Human salinity is 0.9%, meaning any liquid with more then 0.9% salt will make you thirstier.

A simple google search will also reveal a mL of water is 1000mg. So if you have 3.5% salt, that means there is 35mg of salt in every mL of water.

So you are saying that there is 40-90mg of salt in a 335mL can of pop, and that is somehow more than the 11,725 mg of salt that would be in a 335mL can of saltwater?

Oh I did my math wrong there...

Still, my arguement is still valid, you don't want to be drinking 12-27% of your daily salt intake.

Coke has 75mg of Sodium in it, this is the equivalent of 0.02% salt. Our Blood is 0.6% salt, but it's also only 50.6% water (55% fluid which is 92% water) so the salinity of salt in our blood is 0.01% (0.6/50.6)

While Coke isn't as salt as salt water, it's twice as salty as our blood. Hence pop makes you thirsty

How are you drinking 12-27% of your daily salt intake? The maximum recommended salt intake according to the .edu source I found is 2300 mg. 75 mg is only 
3.3% of your daily salt intake, and you will actually get 5.2% if you drink a single average sized glass of milk. So if you are saying that 3.3% of your daily intake via liquids is bad, you must also be indicating we should stop drinking milk since it is an even higher %?

Also, if our blood is .6% salt, your math is wrong once again. A 335 mL can of pop has ~335,000mg in it. 75mg of salt/335,000mg is .02%; .02% is less than .6%. Even if you took out just the water and salt from our blood and made a saltwater mixture, it would be .6 units salt for each .506 units of water; .6/.506 is 1.18% saltwater you would be making there (you divided by 50.6, instead of .506 in your math).

Please give it up dude. If the salt in pop makes you thirsty, it has nothing to do with the salinity relative the the salinity of our blood, because it is incredibly lower than the salinity of our blood. What makes people thirsty (such as at restaurants when they go out to eat) is the salt in the food. They are putting very little liquid in their body (whatever liquid the food contains) while putting a lot of salt in their body (restaurant food has lots of salt).

This isn't even to mention the fact that while it might for you, pop does not make me thirstier (just like milk, which contains even more salt yet) does not make me thirstier. If I drink a pop while I'm thirsty, my thirst is quenched. If I drink milk while thirsty, my thirst is quenched.



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Baalzamon said:
Michael-5 said:

Oh I did my math wrong there...

Still, my arguement is still valid, you don't want to be drinking 12-27% of your daily salt intake.

Coke has 75mg of Sodium in it, this is the equivalent of 0.02% salt. Our Blood is 0.6% salt, but it's also only 50.6% water (55% fluid which is 92% water) so the salinity of salt in our blood is 0.01% (0.6/50.6)

While Coke isn't as salt as salt water, it's twice as salty as our blood. Hence pop makes you thirsty

How are you drinking 12-27% of your daily salt intake? The maximum recommended salt intake according to the .edu source I found is 2300 mg. 75 mg is only 
3.3% of your daily salt intake, and you will actually get 5.2% if you drink a single average sized glass of milk. So if you are saying that 3.3% of your daily intake via liquids is bad, you must also be indicating we should stop drinking milk since it is an even higher %?

Also, if our blood is .6% salt, your math is wrong once again. A 335 mL can of pop has ~335,000mg in it. 75mg of salt/335,000mg is .02%; .02% is less than .6%. Even if you took out just the water and salt from our blood and made a saltwater mixture, it would be .6 units salt for each .506 units of water; .6/.506 is 1.18% saltwater you would be making there (you divided by 50.6, instead of .506 in your math).

Please give it up dude. If the salt in pop makes you thirsty, it has nothing to do with the salinity relative the the salinity of our blood, because it is incredibly lower than the salinity of our blood. What makes people thirsty (such as at restaurants when they go out to eat) is the salt in the food. They are putting very little liquid in their body (whatever liquid the food contains) while putting a lot of salt in their body (restaurant food has lots of salt).

This isn't even to mention the fact that while it might for you, pop does not make me thirstier (just like milk, which contains even more salt yet) does not make me thirstier. If I drink a pop while I'm thirsty, my thirst is quenched. If I drink milk while thirsty, my thirst is quenched.

Oh it's 2300mg in the US? It's 2,000 mg in Canada, but the Canadian Medical Association is pushing for it to be reduced to 1,500 mg. I believe the American and Australian Medical Associations also agree on the 1,500mg limit, but I'm not sure about the rest of the world.

75mg is 5% your daily intake on the 1,500ml limit. However that 5% is for 355ml, people are suppose to drink about 2L of liquid a day, so thats about 6 cans, which is close to 30% your salt intake a day from liquids if you just drank pop.

Milk has Potassium twice as much as Sodium, this makes a huge difference because you body regulates salt levels in your blood cells through something called a Sodium Potassium pump. So if you intake the same number of ions (they both have different molar masses) you can intake more Sodium then the daily limit without much consequence because your blood cells won't absorb the sodium and it will just go out with your waste. This is why drinking milk doesn't make you thirty afterwards, but pop does.

Now you're math is wrong 0.6/50.6 is a concentration ratio. I'm suppose to divide by 50.6 because for ever 0.6g of Na in your blood, you have 50.6g of water (not fluid, water). So the salt content of your blood is 0.01%, which is half the concentration of coke.

Anyway I agree with you about the food, but your comment on milk is wrong. Since Milk and OJ and other healthy drinks have more K then Na, they actually work as effective agents to bring blood pressure down and to lower Na content in your blood. Good the Na/K Pump.



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Michael-5 said:
Jumpin said:
Anything to cut down on fat people is good in my book.

Put tax on junk food, and ban overweight people from entering junk food restaurants.

Easily done with small doorways

Hahaha, good idea!



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