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I'm from Virginia. Interracial marriage wasn't legal until 1970. A couple that moved from DC had to go to the Supreme Court to get Virginia to recognize their marriage. Some people clearly need learn about the history of racism in America.



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richardhutnik said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
There is nothing and I do mean nothing, that does not offend someone. In this case you cannot rightfully know "who" you are going to offend of your customers, so you have only those in your office to go on.

Should everyone's "offendedness" be treated equally? Sure. Should you act on everyone being offended? No. Nothing would ever get done.

With your Fund Christian vs the Homosexual reference, the answer should always be yes.

This day and age, some degrees of being offended are seen as more proper than others.  What annoyed me a bit in regards to the being offended was that people who knew nothing of the ending to Infinite, happened to go off and judged those who knew much more about the game than they did.


Which they shouldnt be.  I definitely agree with you that people complaining and saying these Christians destroyed the ending...have no idea what they are talking about (and a good bit of people starting bitching before they even got the PLAY THE DAMN GAME!)

Either way, game is awesome and the ending felt straight up RUSHED and really like a big ass cop out to me.  To easy to explain something that way.



Mr Puggsly said:

Cool game, but it was clearly written by liberals.

Not really sure how I feel about the story. A lot of the racism and religious stuff was kinda unnecessary. Felt like they just wanted to be edgy, it was over the top.


I think it was pretty heavy-handed, but I wouldn't call it unnecessary.  I would call the violence level unnecessary.



Am I the only one who plays a game and doesnt take the themes within a game too seriously? :/



    

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BasilZero said:
Am I the only one who plays a game and doesnt take the themes within a game too seriously? :/

Well if you are a gamer into gameplay, then that could make sense.  But do you get immersed into worlds, or just play them for the play mechanics being interesting?



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richardhutnik said:
BasilZero said:
Am I the only one who plays a game and doesnt take the themes within a game too seriously? :/

Well if you are a gamer into gameplay, then that could make sense.  But do you get immersed into worlds, or just play them for the play mechanics being interesting?


Well I play games regardless of the gameplay (unless its sports - cant stand those games).

Story telling is a major factor for me but I wont let it affect me or cloud my judgment on the overall game because of a certain theme within it. Also I am a Christian, I've played other games with similar themes or themes that copy from Christianity (i.e. FFTactics having that religion in the storyline or Breath of Fire II's religion clearly being copy of Christianity/catholicism in terms of figure/appearance ) - I honestly dont see anything wrong with games having such themes.

I find it funny people are quitting the game after finding out how the themes are portrayed in the game.



    

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BasilZero said:
richardhutnik said:
BasilZero said:
Am I the only one who plays a game and doesnt take the themes within a game too seriously? :/

Well if you are a gamer into gameplay, then that could make sense.  But do you get immersed into worlds, or just play them for the play mechanics being interesting?


Well I play games regardless of the gameplay (unless its sports - cant stand those games).

Story telling is a major factor for me but I wont let it affect me or cloud my judgment on the overall game because of a certain theme within it. Also I am a Christian, I've played other games with similar themes or themes that copy from Christianity (i.e. FFTactics having that religion in the storyline or Breath of Fire II's religion clearly being copy of Christianity/catholicism in terms of figure/appearance ) - I honestly dont see anything wrong with games having such themes.

I find it funny people are quitting the game after finding out how the themes are portrayed in the game.

We have no idea how the actual ending was prior.  I was just expressing that I could see how some might take offense, and also was dismayed that individuals on the internet were all irate over people who were actually close to the project than them ended up expressing concerns, and the concerns were honored.  It was all, as I saw it, really a sign of intolerance.  I am not going to speak against people being wrong for having intolerance though, but can speak to how such intolerance is reflected, and degress of inconsistency one might have.

In regards to the storytelling side, I would have to know the story and so on.  I do take issues with some themes and won't touch them pretty much (like Naughty Bear reall was off to me), and some game mechanics don't resonate with me either.  From a Christian perspective, on a personal level, I do wonder about bigger picture things with my life and prioritizing.  For me, I am doing game design now, because I don't see much else to do with my time, as working on a book with 100 of my games seems to be something solid.  Is there something more suited for Christ that I could be doing?  I would certainly like to hear.  Heck, I would also like to hear on the career front what is a better thing to do.  Thus far, I don't get any answers.  

On the spending of time, I am reminded of something Paul wrote: "Redeem the hours, for the times are evil", so I do see reasons to mindfully think about what is going on.



I'm Christian and watched the ending on youtube. Didn't make much sense. Probably should play the whole game.



JoeTheBro said:
I'm Christian and watched the ending on youtube. Didn't make much sense. Probably should play the whole game.

You could also do a bit of search on the Internet and follow the back story and so on.  I have a basic feel for the world, so the ending makes sense to me. Lose a bit of impact if I had just played through it though, which I haven't yet.  Sorry, I am in serious pinching pennies mode now.  And when I get a chunk of change in, I have to debate whether or not I actually end up going for a new videogame or just build up a cash reserve.



JoeTheBro said:
I'm Christian and watched the ending on youtube. Didn't make much sense. Probably should play the whole game.


It's a hard ending to grasp even if you've played the game, watching it with no context almost guarantees confusion.  :)