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Don't judge, just watch. Old but I thought it should be posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka9Tf3pFjJo



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based on how you show Wii U love this should be good. *edit nah i see where this is going



snyps said:
based on how you show Wii U love this should be good.


If you keep an open mind to common business sense in the gaming industry it will make a world of sense to you.



The reason those 3rd parties were saying the Wii U was "underpowered" is because they were trying to do simple copy-paste ports of the games they were currently working on. Those games use a different architecture that emphasizes in-order CPU processing with multithreading. Not a single next gen third party game will utilize that and the engines will all be scalable, so there is no logical reason they shouldn't come to the Wii U. Epic wears large MS money hats and EA has this freakish grudge against Nintendo that seemingly came out of nowhere (leading credence to the whole Origin thing) so that explains their support problems.

Ubisoft, Namco Bandai, Capcom, Platinum, Atlus, Criterion, Crytek, and Slightly Mad all seem to think that the Wii U is worth developing for (and that is just off the top of my head). Crytek has a CryEngine 3 game that "runs beautifully" on the Wii U that isn't from the main division, which likely means it wasn't Crysis 3 they were referring to seeing as that was being done by Frankfurt. There is definitely a disparity between the Wii U and PS4/720(likely), but it isn't NEARLY large enough to keep it from getting 3rd party multiplats. Multiplats tend to be rubbish these days anyway imo. By the time the PS4/720 launch, the Wii U will have a much healthier install base as well, and ignoring it would just be leaving money on the table.

Nintendo did slip up in the post launch, but launch itself was successful. If Ubisoft would have kept to their word (possible MS policy scare?) and released Rayman, thinks might be a bit different. I know they want Pikmin to be incredible, but the delay has hurt. Nintendo will be fine though regardless, they always are....even after the Gamecube. The Wii U is projected to amass 75% of that console's lifetime sales by the end of this year alone, probably becoming profitable on each unit by then as well. Then you've got a proper Zelda, Smash, X (assuming it's not out this year), SMT x FE that will all sell millions and any other Nintendo franchise as well. It is going to be hard to resist [insert franchise] for the first time in HD for a lot of people



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its a video of serious sam, narrated by a wii u owner that hasnt played zombiu... complaining there isnt a killer launch game. he tells you wii u is underpowered and thats all developers care about. He goes on to try making a 3 million system launch look like a prison rape scene. And how he wants bayonetta 2.


a guy who was fired at ibm telling nintendo to hand out pink slips. telling a PROFITABLE hardware manufacturer to be more like sony and microsoft. yeah... thats one perspective... but it aint common business sense.



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RicardJulianti said:

The reason those 3rd parties were saying the Wii U was "underpowered" is because they were trying to do simple copy-paste ports of the games they were currently working on. Those games use a different architecture that emphasizes in-order CPU processing with multithreading. Not a single next gen third party game will utilize that and the engines will all be scalable, so there is no logical reason they shouldn't come to the Wii U. Epic wears large MS money hats and EA has this freakish grudge against Nintendo that seemingly came out of nowhere (leading credence to the whole Origin thing) so that explains their support problems.

Ubisoft, Namco Bandai, Capcom, Platinum, Atlus, Criterion, Crytek, and Slightly Mad all seem to think that the Wii U is worth developing for (and that is just off the top of my head). Crytek has a CryEngine 3 game that "runs beautifully" on the Wii U that isn't from the main division, which likely means it wasn't Crysis 3 they were referring to seeing as that was being done by Frankfurt. There is definitely a disparity between the Wii U and PS4/720(likely), but it isn't NEARLY large enough to keep it from getting 3rd party multiplats. Multiplats tend to be rubbish these days anyway imo. By the time the PS4/720 launch, the Wii U will have a much healthier install base as well, and ignoring it would just be leaving money on the table.

Nintendo did slip up in the post launch, but launch itself was successful. If Ubisoft would have kept to their word (possible MS policy scare?) and released Rayman, thinks might be a bit different. I know they want Pikmin to be incredible, but the delay has hurt. Nintendo will be fine though regardless, they always are....even after the Gamecube. The Wii U is projected to amass 75% of that console's lifetime sales by the end of this year alone, probably becoming profitable on each unit by then as well. Then you've got a proper Zelda, Smash, X (assuming it's not out this year), SMT x FE that will all sell millions and any other Nintendo franchise as well. It is going to be hard to resist [insert franchise] for the first time in HD for a lot of people


Yeah....the Wii U is not the Wii. The projections will fall off the face of the earth if the Wii U cannot outsell the PS3 and 360.



snyps said:
spoiler
its a video of serious sam, narrated by a wii u owner that hasnt played zombiu... complaining there isnt a killer launch game. he tells you wii u is underpowered and thats all developers are care about. He goes on to try making a 3 million system launch look like a prison rape scene. And how he wants bayonetta 2.


a guy who was fired at ibm telling nintendo to hand out pink slips. telling a PROFITABLE hardware manufacturer to be more like sony and microsoft. yeah... thats one perspective... but it aint common business sense.


He wasnt telling them to be like Sony or Microsoft. He said despite the fact that the only game hes anticipating this year is Bayonetta and he will eventually play Zombiu, Nintendo screwed up their one year head start by NOT having:

1) Proper next gen hardware as to why the third party shied away. Nintendo failed to profit off of third party games (compared to their competition who actually had less games) which is where a lot of companies make a lot of their money over time despite console sales and first party games. 

2) Proper launch titles, which is why he alluded to Nintendo not having a proper core launch since the N64.

His frustration as a Nintendo fan is wondering why Nintendo can't just come out with a console that can lend itself to proper ports so he doesn't have to go out and buy a Sony or Microsoft product and enjoy his Nintendo fix. This led him to conclude that Nintendo is out of touch. This video was in february and he was speculating, but eventually after the PS4 was revealed his prediction was proven true.



Well that video is nothing INSANE like some others I seen.

I agree that the system shoudl have been a bit more powerful, If they focused less on customising the system and went a bit more stock for CPU GPU or an APU, the final result would have been much better. This indeed is leading to developers not wanting to develop games of the Wii U, granted EA may be the exception to the rule with their origin but hurt. But you know what, I got NFS MW on Wii U and Origin is integrated into it. The online was smooth like a baby's bottom and I have no idea if I played against Wii U users, PC users or other system users for that matter.

I also agree that the system should have had a system seller released with it.

The only thing I find funny is him asking why they didn't release one. We know the answer to that. They thought 3rd party ports and 2D mario would sell the system. This is the mistake they mad which led to no system selling game at launch.




 

 

I watched this before. He makes some good points but specs are not always important when determining success

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BossPuma said:
I watched this before. He makes some good points but specs are not always important when determining success


He stated that as well, but thats Nintendos biggest achillies heel. In new gens third parties are looking to expand what they can create and Nintendo just isnt working with them.