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Nem said:
Wright said:
Nem said:

You're playing coy. We all know Microsoft only "makes" games for 4 franchises nowadays. Halo, Forza, Fable and gears. Enjoy getting shoveled more of those.


Coy?

And Microsoft also "publishes" games. Think about that before making assumptions of what I play and what I don't play =P


You're still playing Coy. Microsoft published games were released in the first 3 years of the system. Those lost odyssey, blue dragon, Mass effect, etc. ended. Theres no more of those coming. Open your eyes, microsoft does not care about gamers, they care about finding ways to fool you out of your money.


"You're playing coy. We all know Microsoft only "makes" games for 4 franchises nowadays"

its extremely ironic that you say that as imo that sounds very similar to one of the biggest gripes people have with nintendo in general

 

"Open your eyes, microsoft does not care about gamers, they care about finding ways to fool you out of your money."

lol and i suppose nintendo makes games purely because they care so deeply for us... not because they want to make money but because they care...




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Nem said:


This keeps going in circles. You can list your fables and your halo's and your gears, aswell as those low profile games you mentioned. There is little to nothing of value in that list. Microsoft released what 3 high profile titles last year? It was just as bad in previous years aswell, except the first 2. They are always from the same series aswell.

You, just like i previously said, are playing coy cause you have no case. Here is what Microsoft has: Shooters, a mediocre RPG series and a racing series (wich i havent even played cause it looks so dull). They are rehashed time and again. That is all. Those little arcade games you mention dont even make a splash, nor things like crackdown, wich as admitidly mediocre. Microsoft only wants your money, they dont want to try to develop exciting new IP's and they dont care about trying new things. They will keep shoving you Halo's and gears as often as they can. Maybe for your thats good games, but for many of us, im sure it isnt. We want more than to be shoveled the same game time and again.

Again, i dont see where my statement was wrong. It is absolutely the case.


There, that's more like it. You should have stated that you're a pretty biased person from the beggining, we wouldn't have had this conversation then =D

Again, this is funny. You've mentioned Gran Turismo, Uncharted and God of War to counter my own list. Those are flagship titles from Sony, just as Gears and Forza are flagship titles from Microsoft; I don't see how that helps your case. It's funny, though, you mentioned that last year Microsof released only 3 games. Actually, they released 5; yet Sony released only 3 - and two of those games flopped hard because no one bothered playing them, despite being great games -. Now what does this tell us? Because if we follow your logic, my friend, this would mean that actually Sony is shoveling more than Microsoft. But don't be silly, now. Your flawed arguments are that: flawed.

Now here, knowing that you're pretty biased and you have hatred toward Microsoft, I won't bother in going on pointing out what's wrong with what you're saying (Not that you would listen anyway). But it was not until 2013 when the Ps3 had more JRPGs than the 360, you know. That should really tell you something, my friend. Oh, yes, Microsoft has more than shooters, and I have been having fun from a long time now. That without counting Halo, which I don't like. Imagine!

Oh, and that sentence of yours about the arcade games...it's pretty funny, you know. Here, I'll let Metacritic (even though numeric scores are pretty much biased, but hey! You've proven that this is a biased chat) talk for me:

Just for comparison purposes: Ni No Kuni (A game you didn't mention) holds an 86, God of War: Ascension an 80, the new Atelier Game (a game you didn't mention) have a 70 and Sly Cooper 3 (A game you didn't mention) holds an 75. Woah, would you look at that. "Don't even make a splash, huh".   :3

 

There you have your case. You're happy now? You want some orange juice now? Perhaps you're thirsty.

 



Mr Khan said:
pezus said:
How is that relevant?
Makes you wonder why they don't just buy some 3rd party games. Why should he be afraid of the money Nintendo have?

Because they could rush in with a hostile takeover. Fire everyone with prejudice, but not before taking legal steps to make sure that they can never make an engine similar to unreal again, and then completely horde unreal away from all third parties, and watch them twist in the wind like the visionless, talentless hacks they are.

You are a mod, behave like one. This raged drivel means nothing. Epic supplies a great deal of third parties of a powerful, cheap, easy-to-use, and powerful engine. They have many. many business associatives and not without reason.



Chrizum said:
Mr Khan said:
pezus said:
How is that relevant?
Makes you wonder why they don't just buy some 3rd party games. Why should he be afraid of the money Nintendo have?

Because they could rush in with a hostile takeover. Fire everyone with prejudice, but not before taking legal steps to make sure that they can never make an engine similar to unreal again, and then completely horde unreal away from all third parties, and watch them twist in the wind like the visionless, talentless hacks they are.

You are a mod, behave like one. This raged drivel means nothing. Epic supplies a great deal of third parties of a powerful, cheap, easy-to-use, and powerful engine. They have many. many business associatives and not without reason.

I'll admit to embarrassing myself, if everyone else acknowledges that Epic and the industry embarrassed themselves on friday, and that their behavior is further proof of their malice against Nintendo.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Mr Khan said:
Chrizum said:
Mr Khan said:
pezus said:
How is that relevant?
Makes you wonder why they don't just buy some 3rd party games. Why should he be afraid of the money Nintendo have?

Because they could rush in with a hostile takeover. Fire everyone with prejudice, but not before taking legal steps to make sure that they can never make an engine similar to unreal again, and then completely horde unreal away from all third parties, and watch them twist in the wind like the visionless, talentless hacks they are.

You are a mod, behave like one. This raged drivel means nothing. Epic supplies a great deal of third parties of a powerful, cheap, easy-to-use, and powerful engine. They have many. many business associatives and not without reason.

I'll admit to embarrassing myself, if everyone else acknowledges that Epic and the industry embarrassed themselves on friday, and that their behavior is further proof of their malice against Nintendo.

Sorry but nintendo's gaming market is different from the one Sony is in and different from the one that the big publishers are in. When it comes to platformers and kids games 3rd party makes sure to make a wii version and market it for the wii. The wii u is for people who want to play nintendo franchise games plus some 3rd party on the side. If publishers feel that making a wii u version of a game is a waste of time and money then whats it to you? The wii u is also weak and would be the lowest denominator when games move purely to next gen. UE 4 is a nextgen graphics engine which the wii u just won't be able to hande. Hopefully Nintendo realizes that next gen they have to accept making bigger losses on their hardware so they can sell a machine that is comparable to what the future wants. 



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NYCrysis said:

Sorry but nintendo's gaming market is different from the one Sony is in and different from the one that the big publishers are in. When it comes to platformers and kids games 3rd party makes sure to make a wii version and market it for the wii. The wii u is for people who want to play nintendo franchise games plus some 3rd party on the side. If publishers feel that making a wii u version of a game is a waste of time and money then whats it to you? The wii u is also weak and would be the lowest denominator when games move purely to next gen. UE 4 is a nextgen graphics engine which the wii u just won't be able to hande. Hopefully Nintendo realizes that next gen they have to accept making bigger losses on their hardware so they can sell a machine that is comparable to what the future wants. 


On a side note: yes, WiiU could handle UE4. It all boils down to wether they optimize it for the WiiU (Which they won't; that's the whole point of this thread and the other one) in order to make it functional or they don't.



Wright said:
NYCrysis said:

Sorry but nintendo's gaming market is different from the one Sony is in and different from the one that the big publishers are in. When it comes to platformers and kids games 3rd party makes sure to make a wii version and market it for the wii. The wii u is for people who want to play nintendo franchise games plus some 3rd party on the side. If publishers feel that making a wii u version of a game is a waste of time and money then whats it to you? The wii u is also weak and would be the lowest denominator when games move purely to next gen. UE 4 is a nextgen graphics engine which the wii u just won't be able to hande. Hopefully Nintendo realizes that next gen they have to accept making bigger losses on their hardware so they can sell a machine that is comparable to what the future wants. 


On a side note: yes, WiiU could handle UE4. It all boils down to wether they optimize it for the WiiU (Which they won't; that's the whole point of this thread and the other one) in order to make it functional or they don't.


"we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already."

The wii u can not handle what ue4 is being aimed for. But I can say that ea are a bunch of pricks for not including bf4 for the wii u. IfThe Wii U is atleast 50% more powerful than the ps360 which frostbite 3 supports so why not make the game for the wii u as well? EA is just butthurt. Atleast ubisoft is supporting the wii u with watch dogs.



NYCrysis said:
Wright said:
NYCrysis said:

Sorry but nintendo's gaming market is different from the one Sony is in and different from the one that the big publishers are in. When it comes to platformers and kids games 3rd party makes sure to make a wii version and market it for the wii. The wii u is for people who want to play nintendo franchise games plus some 3rd party on the side. If publishers feel that making a wii u version of a game is a waste of time and money then whats it to you? The wii u is also weak and would be the lowest denominator when games move purely to next gen. UE 4 is a nextgen graphics engine which the wii u just won't be able to hande. Hopefully Nintendo realizes that next gen they have to accept making bigger losses on their hardware so they can sell a machine that is comparable to what the future wants. 


On a side note: yes, WiiU could handle UE4. It all boils down to wether they optimize it for the WiiU (Which they won't; that's the whole point of this thread and the other one) in order to make it functional or they don't.


"we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already."

The wii u can not handle what ue4 is being aimed for. But I can say that ea are a bunch of pricks for not including bf4 for the wii u. IfThe Wii U is atleast 50% more powerful than the ps360 which frostbite 3 supports so why not make the game for the wii u as well? EA is just butthurt. Atleast ubisoft is supporting the wii u with watch dogs.


Ea is butthurt, yes xDDDD That's why no Battlefield on WiiU.


Ubisoft...meh. They do good things and bad things to the Nintendo brand whenever they feel like. An example would be Rayman Legends; but yeah, at least they're supporting it with Watch Dogs.

 

And I didn't say that UE4 was more aimed to Ps4 and whatever Microsoft will bring to the table. What I meant is that, yes, UE4 can fit into the WiiU, with good results if done properly. The point is, they don't want to waste time doing so; instead they'll left WiiU with UE3.



Mark would probably have a great time reading this thread, btw they should be hurt that an chinese company owns them? In that case should Nintendo be scared because that Chinese company could buy them over and over? Mark maybe would love it.



 

Wright said:
NYCrysis said:
Wright said:
NYCrysis said:

Sorry but nintendo's gaming market is different from the one Sony is in and different from the one that the big publishers are in. When it comes to platformers and kids games 3rd party makes sure to make a wii version and market it for the wii. The wii u is for people who want to play nintendo franchise games plus some 3rd party on the side. If publishers feel that making a wii u version of a game is a waste of time and money then whats it to you? The wii u is also weak and would be the lowest denominator when games move purely to next gen. UE 4 is a nextgen graphics engine which the wii u just won't be able to hande. Hopefully Nintendo realizes that next gen they have to accept making bigger losses on their hardware so they can sell a machine that is comparable to what the future wants. 


On a side note: yes, WiiU could handle UE4. It all boils down to wether they optimize it for the WiiU (Which they won't; that's the whole point of this thread and the other one) in order to make it functional or they don't.


"we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already."

The wii u can not handle what ue4 is being aimed for. But I can say that ea are a bunch of pricks for not including bf4 for the wii u. IfThe Wii U is atleast 50% more powerful than the ps360 which frostbite 3 supports so why not make the game for the wii u as well? EA is just butthurt. Atleast ubisoft is supporting the wii u with watch dogs.


Ea is butthurt, yes xDDDD That's why no Battlefield on WiiU.


Ubisoft...meh. They do good things and bad things to the Nintendo brand whenever they feel like. An example would be Rayman Legends; but yeah, at least they're supporting it with Watch Dogs.

 

And I didn't say that UE4 was more aimed to Ps4 and whatever Microsoft will bring to the table. What I meant is that, yes, UE4 can fit into the WiiU, with good results if done properly. The point is, they don't want to waste time doing so; instead they'll left WiiU with UE3.

EA is butthurt  that Nintendo canned their plans for origin on the wii u. Remember when ea claimed their full on support for the wii u?