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If you got angry at Nintendo for not making Wii U UE4/Frostbite 3 capable it may be good to read this article. 

 

With the subject of this thread I’m referring to this:

When Nintendo doesn’t get third party support: ‘’Nintendo is once again falling behind and I’m not buying their console because it doesn’t support third party multiplatform games.’’

When Nintendo gets third party support: ‘’Not interested. I can get those games on my Playstation/Xbox/PC anyway with better performance and graphics.’’

I remember when Nintendo tried to follow in Sony’s footsteps by convincing third parties to port their games to Nintendo consoles. It was called the Gamecube, Nintendo’s biggest flop in terms of sales (especially third party). We all know Nintendo has been third party supportive with NES and SNES, but that was because they got no direct competition. Since the N64 Nintendo has had difficulty to gain third party games to their consoles for no apparent reason. I personally am thrilled to know why third party doesn’t take Nintendo that serious, but it has been that way for many years and it’s time to accept that. My only theory is that Nintendo looks different at games then most third parties; making games fun and memorable. Especially western developers are therefore the direct competition for Nintendo, because they focus on power and performance. There isn’t any other company out their like Nintendo.

You can’t be angry at Nintendo for not trying to get multiplatform games on Wii U. Why would they in the first place looking back at the performance of the Gamecube. The Gamecube was the most powerful console at the time, yet it failed. I think it is better for Nintendo to differentiate themselves even more from the competition than they are now. Nintendo shouldn’t be trying to be like Sony/Microsoft. We already got a PC/Playstation/Xbox for those types of games. Why do you want a third another exactly the same console?

With my current observations, I can conclude Nintendo is already taking another route than the real ‘hardcore-gamer’ is expecting from them ‘’getting back hardcore-gamers’’. Nintendo pissed of gamers by getting Bayonetta 2 Wii U exclusive. Nintendo has Monster Hunter, it has Dragon Quest, it pays for Lego City, W101, SMTxFE exclusivity. Look at the games-list of 3DS. There are so many exclusives, and that’s why it’s selling so good. Nintendo isn’t waiting for third party to support them, they’re working out deals so that they make Nintendo-exclusives appealing to the Nintendo audience. This may only be the beginning referring to Iwata’s statement:

"Our first party software alone can't be enough to appeal to the different tastes of all game fans. The decision of Nintendo that it will publish the two software titles from Platinum Games is one answer to this challenge." - Nintendo global president, Satoru Iwata

I think we’ll be amazed by the amount of unique games coming to Wii U and already available on 3DS. Who knows what other companies are working on behind closed doors in cooperation with Nintendo. If you’re a true gamer and want to experience all types of games, you won’t be ready for next-gen with a Wii U alone, but also not with a PC/PS4/Xbox 3 alone. This is just something we cannot change.

 



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Very well written. About the origin of the bad 3rd party support: If I remember correctly Nintendo imposed ridiculous restrictions at 3rd party developers since they were the only big player. When the Playstation was released and Nintendo made the failure of using cartridges 3rd party jumped over to Sony.

Nintendo systems have never been my main systems. I was a SEGA fanboy while they were around, but even then i bought the playstation aswell. With SEGA gone, Nintendo became my second choice, but one i dearly enjoy.

Nintendo systems make sense for their exclusives, thats always been the appeal. Even in the mega drive days the SNES wasnt famous for their multiplatform 3rd party stuff, but the exclusives.

 

The Wii U has a definitve bonus, wich is beeing backwards compatible. That is great for someone like me that skiped the Wii because of motion controls.



the only reason I see Nintendo needing 3rd party games is to keep it selling for 5 years as they can't keep pumping enough games for it. once a generation is about to end Nintendo needs put their devs on new games for the new hardware and at that time it is good to have 3rd party games filling in the gaps.

I'm not angry at Nintendo for thinking about their survival before thinking about what gamers want (or what haters claim they want from Nintendo who would not buy it anyway). If they did go with a super powerful console to please devs and gamers they wouldn't last very long.

the good thing about having 3rd party support is that you don't need to buy a Sony or an MS console to play them in my case


Iīm pretty angry at Nintendo because of a few things, which are:

- Their silence is infuriating

- I keep thinking with all the $$$ they amassed with the DS and Wii, they couldīve done way more than partnerships like Bayonetta 2 and SMT/Fire Emblem...thatīs something, but they could do sooooo much more

- Their apparent unpreparedness to handle HD, 6-7 years later than everyone else (I say 'apparent' because I donīt know if itīs true, but if it is...thatīs a major fuck up)

- Way too Japanese centric

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my anger with nintendo as passed now that i gave up on them but..

..you should be angry with nintendo.

        

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The only annoyance comes for those who may have been hoping that the Wii U will be their only next gen system. Still some will be satisfied with ninty's exclusives but many will have to spend another $400 to play games which could have been on the Wii U if nintendo had played their cards differently.

kitler53 said:
my anger with nintendo as passed now that i gave up on them but..

..you should be angry with nintendo.


Lol, I explained everything why I'am not angry and why you cant be angry at Nintendo. They simply CAN'T get that much third party support because of two factors: Their family-friendly status and financial power to buy ports. Remember Nintendo is a stand-alone gamecompany and doesn't make billions on OS/PC's and TV's like Microsoft and Sony. Compared to Microsoft and Sony Nintendo is actually a bit...indie.

Its like getting mad at Sony for not releasing Mario-games on their systems, they simply can't do it. You can't blame them...

 



teigaga said:
The only annoyance comes for those who may have been hoping that the Wii U will be their only next gen system. Still some will be satisfied with ninty's exclusives but many will have to spend another $400 to play games which could have been on the Wii U if nintendo had played their cards differently.

Why would Nintendo choose to lose huge amounts of money again like they did with the Gamecube? Also Gamecube got a lot of third party multiplatform titles but it sold SO poorly. There isn't any reason for them to repeat that. They need to differentiate themself.



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What's the point of Nintendo staying in the console business?

They're barely making money off the console itself, and they're not getting 3'rd party support from which they could extract royalties from.