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twilight_link on 30 March 2013
fillet said:
twilight_link said:
BlueFalcon said:
twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4

Considering the early rumors of PS4/720 called for a GPU of HD6670 or 7670 level of performance, PS4's GPU is actually very respectable. In this economy and financial state of Sony, consumers wouldn't be interested in a $700-1000 PS4, while Sony couldn't afford a $300 loss per each console sold. Since GTX680/7970 use 180W of power in games, those GPUs couldn't be viable, and neither could the  Titan. That leaves us with still expensive HD7950/670 or something reasonable alongside 680M/7970M/HD7870/660. NV charges stupid money for 680M while it's only 5% faster than HD7970M. HD7850/7870 deliver better price/performance than anything NV has had up until 650Ti Boost. An 1152 shader GCN part with 176GB/sec memory bandwidth is actually the best you could have gotten without the price of the console or its power consumption ballooning way above reasonable levels. The bigger dissapointment is the CPU not the GPU.

Steam box won't wipe the floor with PS4 unless it costs substantially more. Since developers will code directly to the metal on PS4, Steam Box would need a way more powerful GPU to even come close to PS4's level of graphics. There is absolutely no way that $450 GTX680 would be able to play 2017-2018 PS4 games at the same level of graphics quality/performance. 

It sounds like you hate consoles in general but don't understand how the console business works. Additionally, if consoles didn't exist, blockbuster games wouldn't be viable since PC platform alone cannot sustain development budgets of games like Bioshock Infinite, BF4, Crysis 3, etc. 


it's xbox360 scenario all over again, with some bang at the beginning and fast moral aging in few years, this time with mid-end and slightly modified off-shelf parts (the aging will be much faster this time), and no Cell for some neat tricks, so what is your point.

The console gaming no longer exist (except for Nintendo) the consoles became nothing but PC for those who are unable to properly configure gaming PC, in fact it brings nothing what makes the PC great eg true RTS and Simulators, just PC like machines for mob.

 

in case of SteamBox if this system brings easy usage and ability to upgrade your box, well then it can became success in the end.

The possibility are endless, in case of Playstation their 1st party output is good on paper but not so much in sales, and with hardly any other exclusive games(most are multiplatform), i think the days of PS brand are over.

Vita is great example how weak their brand actually is.


Not sure what you're on about here. You mention PS 1st party exclusives....what about PC exclusives?

Sure there's been SimCity and maybe 1 or 2 other decent high end big bugget games...

 

...In the last 5 YEARS.

your post is nonsense Total War series, MS Flight Simulator and much RTS and simulators in general are more or less PC exclusives, whether the game is big on budget or not is not important for quality of the game itself.



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SxyxS on 30 March 2013
twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4

let's ignore nvidia is just supposing those numbers

 

What will you play on your titan PC when ps460 ends in a fiasco?

You 'll have to play games with lower graphic standards than today as it simply does not pay for developers to make AAA games for PC.The games would have a budget max of 5-10 millions and you'll have to wait 5-10 years until cheap made games on super high end pc's look significantly better than AAA games do today.

The only things remaining for pc gamers until then is trying to get some orgasmic feelings while counting pixels and frames("game looks like shit but,hey it's 6000x3000 and runs at 241 frames.)



qmoney88 on 30 March 2013
twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4


Have fun playing uncharted, gow, killzone, infamous on that wonderful steam box of yours... It's not all about processing power



 PROUD MEMBER OF THE  PLAYSTATION 3 : RPG FAN CLUB

hikaruchan on 30 March 2013
twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4




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twilight_link on 30 March 2013
qmoney88 said:
twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4


Have fun playing uncharted, gow, killzone, infamous on that wonderful steam box of yours... It's not all about processing power


neither game on your list interested me in the slightest, it is actually funny to hear Playstation crowd screaming about irrelevancy of power in gaming with their mouth full of 8GB GDDR5



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Roma on 30 March 2013

as long as my penis is a couple of mm longer than yours I can sleep at night!



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Scoobes on 30 March 2013
fillet said:

hang on there your vertical axis isn't showing a 1:1 increase as it goes up.

Nothing wrong with being excited about things or whatever but you're misleading people here.

(can't believe people didn't notice the graph going 1 - 10 - 1000 and so on!!!!!!!!!!?

The graph is very strange though, by using that scale nvidia are playing it against themselves! not sure WTF that's all about, very weird. You'd expect AMD to be using a scale like that if anything.

Can you imagine the size of the graph if it wasn't log scale?




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tonymarraffa on 30 March 2013

Well the 360's GPU is better than the PS3's and it didn't really affect them. I love how everyone is talking about specs instead of the games. The GAMES are what matters!



qmoney88 on 30 March 2013
twilight_link said:
qmoney88 said:
twilight_link said:

mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.

The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.

 

Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4


Have fun playing uncharted, gow, killzone, infamous on that wonderful steam box of yours... It's not all about processing power


neither game on your list interested me in the slightest, it is actually funny to hear Playstation crowd screaming about irrelevancy of power in gaming with their mouth full of 8GB GDDR5


That's fine, I'm not quite sure what types of games you would be interested in then, but to each their own.  The amount of ram is quite exciting and not because of the increase in visual fidelity hat this upgrade would allow, but the gameplay possibilities and genres that open up as a result.  Maybe we can finally start seeing some proper mmorpgs being released on the ps4/nextbox that simply weren't possible this gen.  You sound so bitter, beer up mate.  Also, not every Sony fan has a hard on for graphical enhancements, I'm much more excited to experience new games in new ways.



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Lawlight on 30 March 2013
walsufnir said:
Lawlight said:

Wow, nvidia is really obsessed with the PS4, aren't they?

mmh, doubtful. they deliver a lot of chips to smartphones and they are trying to expand this business. i think there is a lot more money to make with tegra than amd does with ps4 (and nextbox, of course).

 

What is there to be doubtful about? Nvidia has been dissing the next generation of consoles for months now. It's clear that they're very salty.