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Lets End The Vita+Wii U Doom Threads Now! Post Lifetime Sales For Both and I'll Post It In The OP!

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Ryng_Tolu said:
fory77 said:

#hapo

The Vita deserves >15M

And Wii U deserves >100,000,000... but the sales are sales...

That's sadly true...



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tbone51 said:
daredevil.shark said:
tbone51 said:
daredevil.shark said:


Wii U and PS Vita are pretty much commercial failure. People need to accept this. Same fate as dreamcast.


Nowhere near the same fate as the DC. If they were they be already dead


1. I am speaking from a business point of view.

2. In our university one of our lecturer said, "Know your limits. Know when to pull the plug. Its better to cut the tumor before it spreads". Both Wii U and PS Vita are failure.

3. I know it will be very hard for both nintendo and sony to pull the plug of these two. It will impact future systems (I doubt if there will be any new sony handheld). Better option is to slowly kill these two. Suddenly killing these two will impact. So slow killing is best option.

1. No problem

2. Which is a good saying, but for Vita/WiiU Sony+Nintendo cant. It will F*** up Consumer trust (6mil+ Users for WiiU and the 8.5mil+ for Vita) if they just let them go now and proceed with the next installments. This decision affects future Decisions/etc.

3. They cant slow kill the systems. Vita is doing decently in japan, and you dont kno if they arent making profits from it. As for WiiU, killing it off in the next year or 2 is too early. Thats exactly wat happened to Sega.

Im not saying WiiU isnt effecting Nin, cuz then i be lying. But letting go the wiiu where nost of Nintendo Hardcore fanbase is early isnt a good sign at all. Best they can do is ride it out and make the best profits they can. And WiiU isnt out just yet. Give it time, plenty of systems didn't go into full gear this early. 3DS is the only system out now with practically 100% of wat we kno the HH will do lifetime.

WiiU Successor should come no earlier than 2016 Holiday. My guess is 2017 and the HDS late 2015/2016!

This, and we could add that with the Wii U and New 3DS are testing the waters for integration of the Amiibo figures and DLC. From a business standpoint, those two consoles are transitory for Nintendo, because the company is going through major transformations since 2012. I think Nintendo is trying to pave the way for a generation of more unified consoles and game production, so it hurts the actual generation. I think they were probably operating those changes back to the Gamecube era, because they might tell us they are constantly seeking for innovation, but I strongly believe they are in fact trying to find out what is the miracle solution for their games and consoles to sell equally.

Remember how they were trying to mix the 2D and 3D Marios by creating 3D Land and World, well that's how I think Nintendo works. They cannot do perfectly 2 things at a time, and I think they know it and they wanna create something that wouldn't hinder their profits. Amiibos, DLC, new game concepts are a way for them to strike balance in their business structure.



fory77 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

And Wii U deserves >100,000,000... but the sales are sales...

That's sadly true...


:( I personally don't know how Vita isn't Sony's most successful handheld. It annihilates the PSP for me. But as you say sales be sales.

Wii U again, utterly love it. I also loved the Dreamcast. Maybe I'm just a sucker for loving stuff the market then ends up rejecting :/



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

Wii U 18M
PS Vita 22M



Ryng_Tolu said:
fory77 said:

The Vita should end at 15-17M, so it's not accurate enough to impress me.

Also, kek necro.

15,000,000? Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe... with a miracle why not...

17,000,000?

Why not? It is selling around 3M yearly and could stay a very long time in the market though we won't see a successor. 
And Sony still could bundle it with PS4 or give it free with every PS4 (like Nintendo did with Wii Sports).



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Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

15,000,000? Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe... with a miracle why not...

17,000,000?

Why not? It is selling around 3M yearly and could stay a very long time in the market though we won't see a successor. 
And Sony still could bundle it with PS4 or give it free with every PS4 (like Nintendo did with Wii Sports).

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=195704&page=1

This is your PSVita lifetime prediction, 17,300,000.

Now, i seriusly don't know how you have rising this prediction to 18-20M ( http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7174762 ) and now at 22,000,000...

 

is Vita selling better than your expect? As for now seem NO.

You predict Vita to be up in Japan. As for now Vita is down by 25%... for a comparation, 3DS is down by 8%, a console with one year more old.

 

Seem that 3DS have even better legs than Vita. You predict 3DS to be down YOY, when actually is massive up globally, for not talk about US, and the same for Wii U, up YOY as for now.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7172533

No offense, but seem irrealistic all considering... you don't think?

 

Now, you predict Vita to sell 3,500,000 this year for sell a total of 17,300,000 lifetime...

Now your prediction is rise to 22,000,000. What is your Vita prediction for this year? 4,000,000?

5,000,000!?!?!??!

 

Vita will be lucky if will sell equal to last year (under 2,500,000).

And don't talk about the Vita undertracked... because ioi have adjustment the numbers.

 

Now, that is how much MUST sell for break 22,000,000:

2015: 4,000,000

2016: 3,500,000

2017: 2,500,000

2018: 1,000,000

2019/2020: other sales

Vita is not going to live until 2019/2020, it will probabily become the year of PS5 released, and considering the PSVita sales level, this sales are not going to happen.

 

You predict PSVita above GC lifetime...

You want seriusly make a comparation GC VS PSVita?

 

Wii U is currently above PSVita in the same time (Vita is above WiiU LT because is released 10 month before in US/EU, and one year in Japan), GameCube actually massacre Wii U in sales, so... you know... 

 

Vita at +20,000,000 sold is not a realistic prediction.



Ryng_Tolu said:

You predict PSVita above GC lifetime...

You want seriusly make a comparation GC VS PSVita?

 

Wii U is currently above PSVita in the same time (Vita is above WiiU LT because is released 10 month before in US/EU, and one year in Japan), GameCube actually massacre Wii U in sales, so... you know... 

 

Vita at +20,000,000 sold is not a realistic prediction.

Vita still costs more to buy than GCN launched at. Just to play devil's advocate ;p



RIP Dad 25/11/51 - 13/12/13. You will be missed but never forgotten.

It's going to be very hard, but I think PS Vita can still reach 15M.

I don't know about Wii U, but maybe 20M+ is a possibility.

Dr.Vita said:

Why not? It is selling around 3M yearly and could stay a very long time in the market though we won't see a successor. 
And Sony still could bundle it with PS4 or give it free with every PS4 (like Nintendo did with Wii Sports).

That's a very different situation. I don't think Sony would give PS Vita for free like that.



Ryng_Tolu said:
Dr.Vita said:

Why not? It is selling around 3M yearly and could stay a very long time in the market though we won't see a successor. 
And Sony still could bundle it with PS4 or give it free with every PS4 (like Nintendo did with Wii Sports).

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=195704&page=1

This is your PSVita lifetime prediction, 17,300,000.

Now, i seriusly don't know how you have rising this prediction to 18-20M ( http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7174762 ) and now at 22,000,000...

 

is Vita selling better than your expect? As for now seem NO.

You predict Vita to be up in Japan. As for now Vita is down by 25%... for a comparation, 3DS is down by 8%, a console with one year more old.

 

Seem that 3DS have even better legs than Vita. You predict 3DS to be down YOY, when actually is massive up globally, for not talk about US, and the same for Wii U, up YOY as for now.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7172533

No offense, but seem irrealistic all considering... you don't think?

 

Now, you predict Vita to sell 3,500,000 this year for sell a total of 17,300,000 lifetime...

Now your prediction is rise to 22,000,000. What is your Vita prediction for this year? 4,000,000?

5,000,000!?!?!??!

 

Vita will be lucky if will sell equal to last year (under 2,500,000).

And don't talk about the Vita undertracked... because ioi have adjustment the numbers.

 

Now, that is how much MUST sell for break 22,000,000:

2015: 4,000,000

2016: 3,500,000

2017: 2,500,000

2018: 1,000,000

2019/2020: other sales

Vita is not going to live until 2019/2020, it will probabily become the year of PS5 released, and considering the PSVita sales level, this sales are not going to happen.

 

You predict PSVita above GC lifetime...

You want seriusly make a comparation GC VS PSVita?

 

Wii U is currently above PSVita in the same time (Vita is above WiiU LT because is released 10 month before in US/EU, and one year in Japan), GameCube actually massacre Wii U in sales, so... you know... 

 

Vita at +20,000,000 sold is not a realistic prediction.

My prediction is 4 months old. 17M is a minimum, but 22M are possible imo. 
ioi adjusted numbers? NO! We know that PSP / Vita shipped 3.5M in 2014 and that PSP got discontinued in 2014, Vita sales should be at least > 2.5M in 2014. Vita had a great Japan start in 2014, it is normal that it is down right now. Just wait, big games like Persona or KanColle are incoming!