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Mr Khan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

Don't think he ever said it was 100% certain but these information were derived from the best methods possible. They were done with scans of the actual hardware that a company provided to gaf a while back for free (would have cost them a lot of money to get it done it too if they didn't get it for free. Argue with him using facts. What facts or estimates do you have? What are they based on? Why would they be better than the ones he provided? Have a proper discussion..both sides might learn things that way

WiiU IS weaker than many expected. The only ones setting themselves up is you folk who don't accept this. So many major developers have said the same. It's not they have some 'hate' towards Nintendo...it is what it is. Accept it and move on. Nintendo wanted to include the tablet controller so they cheaped out on the rest of the hardware to keep the price as low as possible and that's the reality. It's a huge risk..it worked for wii because it caught on with a whole new market that loved it! WiiU, at least as of now, doesn't seem to be anywhere near that. 

Again no one is OUT to get Nintendo. Not us nor the devs. It's upto them to turn the ship around and they are capable folk..I'm sure they will do fine. There is however no need to be so defensive of the fact that wiiu isn't much more powerful than the PS360

When are the third party apologists going to get that the third parties *are* out to get Nintendo? There's a long history of third parties double-dealing, self-sabotoging, and saying downright insulting things to Nintendo to a far greater degree than their dealings with any other manufacturer in history.

The simple fact is that third parties are either stupider than any business should be, or they are being malevolent. It depends on your outlook of human nature, but it doesn't bode well for any of them either way.

I'm willing to accept that there will be difficulties due to the hardware's strength, but the other side has to realize that the anti-Nintendo sentiment in the industry is very real, and not a "tin-foil hat" thing.

Edit: i'd like to add that if you look at my signature, i'm perfectly willing to give third party games a chance if they're quality games, despite the fact that Capcom is worthy of many a Nintendo fans' grudge after their double-dealing with Wii last generation. The hate is largely on principle, and doesn't bear out if a game is actually worth purchasing.

-_-

I honestly am not sure if I should bother explaining to you. As you seem to be more than willing to put the blame on everyone else BUT Nintendo. Seems that you think Nintendo is not to be blamed for their situation...they have done what 3rd parties have asked for them (BS) and they don't support Nintendo as much not because of hw/sw sales, not because the system is weak compared to ps4/720, and not because nintendo failed to establish a market on their console for the types of games many third parties make nowadays. The only apologist here is you defending Nintendo like no tomorrow. Wake up and smell the coffee Khan..Nintendo messed up. Their approach was high risk high reward....didn't play out as they wanted it to and now they are in a pickle. 

I will say third parties need to be a bit more respectful/professional in how they say things. But this is nothing new. PS3 had plenty of such comments aimed at it too over the initial years. Not a special case of 'hate' towards Nintendo



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pezus said:
osed125 said:

Wait, as far as I know UE 4 can even run on tablets, Epic said the engine was scalable, so Wii U can run UE 4 (just obviously not at the same level as the PS4 and next xbox). 

The reason is not because the Wii U can't run the engine, the reason is that it doesn't make sense financially.

Also, laughing at the question is extremely immature, is sad to see people like him working on the industry.

They probably don't see it as financially viable, just as scaling down to PS360 isn't financially viable. They have UE3 for that.

Pezus, from a  marketing perspective, the PS360 are last gen, the WiiU isn't. Come on man.



M.U.G.E.N said:
Mr Khan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

Don't think he ever said it was 100% certain but these information were derived from the best methods possible. They were done with scans of the actual hardware that a company provided to gaf a while back for free (would have cost them a lot of money to get it done it too if they didn't get it for free. Argue with him using facts. What facts or estimates do you have? What are they based on? Why would they be better than the ones he provided? Have a proper discussion..both sides might learn things that way

WiiU IS weaker than many expected. The only ones setting themselves up is you folk who don't accept this. So many major developers have said the same. It's not they have some 'hate' towards Nintendo...it is what it is. Accept it and move on. Nintendo wanted to include the tablet controller so they cheaped out on the rest of the hardware to keep the price as low as possible and that's the reality. It's a huge risk..it worked for wii because it caught on with a whole new market that loved it! WiiU, at least as of now, doesn't seem to be anywhere near that. 

Again no one is OUT to get Nintendo. Not us nor the devs. It's upto them to turn the ship around and they are capable folk..I'm sure they will do fine. There is however no need to be so defensive of the fact that wiiu isn't much more powerful than the PS360

When are the third party apologists going to get that the third parties *are* out to get Nintendo? There's a long history of third parties double-dealing, self-sabotoging, and saying downright insulting things to Nintendo to a far greater degree than their dealings with any other manufacturer in history.

The simple fact is that third parties are either stupider than any business should be, or they are being malevolent. It depends on your outlook of human nature, but it doesn't bode well for any of them either way.

I'm willing to accept that there will be difficulties due to the hardware's strength, but the other side has to realize that the anti-Nintendo sentiment in the industry is very real, and not a "tin-foil hat" thing.

Edit: i'd like to add that if you look at my signature, i'm perfectly willing to give third party games a chance if they're quality games, despite the fact that Capcom is worthy of many a Nintendo fans' grudge after their double-dealing with Wii last generation. The hate is largely on principle, and doesn't bear out if a game is actually worth purchasing.

-_-

I honestly am not sure if I should bother explaining to you. As you seem to be more than willing to put the blame on everyone else BUT Nintendo. Seems that you think Nintendo is not to be blamed for their situation...they have done what 3rd parties have asked for them (BS) and they don't support Nintendo as much not because of hw/sw sales, not because the system is weak compared to ps4/720, and not because nintendo failed to establish a market on their console for the types of games many third parties make nowadays. The only apologist here is you defending Nintendo like no tomorrow. Wake up and smell the coffee Khan..Nintendo messed up. Their approach was high risk high reward....didn't play out as they wanted it to and now they are in a pickle. 

I will say third parties need to be a bit more respectful/professional in how they say things. But this is nothing new. PS3 had plenty of such comments aimed at it too over the initial years. Not a special case of 'hate' towards Nintendo

bingo. had the wii been at least 50% less powerful then the 360 instead of  20x,  and had real online support, they could have established them selves with third  party's but didn't happen.



keroncoward said:


Marcan said himself on his twitter account around the same time but i wouldnt expect news like that to be taken seriously here. Im not going to go searching around Twitter just to find one quote. The fact that you agree with ethomaz (whatever the troll's name is) already confirms where your mind is set.


so me and ethomaz who take time to present information and try to have a good disucssion are trolling..... >_>

Must be nice and comfortable in denialville 



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KungKras said:
oniyide said:
KungKras said:
Otakumegane said:
KungKras said:
JakDaSnack said:



What game on a Nintendo platform, that launched side by side with other versions (NOT CoD BLOPS2) and wasn't gimped in any way didn't sell well? Soul Calibur 2 on GC outsold the PS2 version. CoD 3 on Wii, despite being gimped outsold the PS3 version. People learned their lession about CoD on Wii after that though...

Link sold that one.

You're not answering my question.


actually SC2 sold BEST on PS2, not GC, speaking of which just about every multiplat game released between PS2/xbox/GC sold better on PS2. same for PS/N64, so that should answer your question

What multiplats were released at the same time for N64/PS1?

As for GC, if you factor in attach rate, I don't think the Nintendo audience did that bad.

Rayman 2, Mortal Trilogy, there were quite a few but not alot. Not sure what your point is, the system with the most sold is going to sell the most games, thats just common sense. Unless of course the leading system is so far behind the others, that most people wont bother with that version(Wii)



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Mr Khan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

Don't think he ever said it was 100% certain but these information were derived from the best methods possible. They were done with scans of the actual hardware that a company provided to gaf a while back for free (would have cost them a lot of money to get it done it too if they didn't get it for free. Argue with him using facts. What facts or estimates do you have? What are they based on? Why would they be better than the ones he provided? Have a proper discussion..both sides might learn things that way

WiiU IS weaker than many expected. The only ones setting themselves up is you folk who don't accept this. So many major developers have said the same. It's not they have some 'hate' towards Nintendo...it is what it is. Accept it and move on. Nintendo wanted to include the tablet controller so they cheaped out on the rest of the hardware to keep the price as low as possible and that's the reality. It's a huge risk..it worked for wii because it caught on with a whole new market that loved it! WiiU, at least as of now, doesn't seem to be anywhere near that. 

Again no one is OUT to get Nintendo. Not us nor the devs. It's upto them to turn the ship around and they are capable folk..I'm sure they will do fine. There is however no need to be so defensive of the fact that wiiu isn't much more powerful than the PS360

When are the third party apologists going to get that the third parties *are* out to get Nintendo? There's a long history of third parties double-dealing, self-sabotoging, and saying downright insulting things to Nintendo to a far greater degree than their dealings with any other manufacturer in history.

The simple fact is that third parties are either stupider than any business should be, or they are being malevolent. It depends on your outlook of human nature, but it doesn't bode well for any of them either way.

I'm willing to accept that there will be difficulties due to the hardware's strength, but the other side has to realize that the anti-Nintendo sentiment in the industry is very real, and not a "tin-foil hat" thing.

Edit: i'd like to add that if you look at my signature, i'm perfectly willing to give third party games a chance if they're quality games, despite the fact that Capcom is worthy of many a Nintendo fans' grudge after their double-dealing with Wii last generation. The hate is largely on principle, and doesn't bear out if a game is actually worth purchasing.

-_-

I honestly am not sure if I should bother explaining to you. As you seem to be more than willing to put the blame on everyone else BUT Nintendo. Seems that you think Nintendo is not to be blamed for their situation...they have done what 3rd parties have asked for them (BS) and they don't support Nintendo as much not because of hw/sw sales, not because the system is weak compared to ps4/720, and not because nintendo failed to establish a market on their console for the types of games many third parties make nowadays. The only apologist here is you defending Nintendo like no tomorrow. Wake up and smell the coffee Khan..Nintendo messed up. Their approach was high risk high reward....didn't play out as they wanted it to and now they are in a pickle. 

I will say third parties need to be a bit more respectful/professional in how they say things. But this is nothing new. PS3 had plenty of such comments aimed at it too over the initial years. Not a special case of 'hate' towards Nintendo

I'll agree that we've reached an impasse. Wii U is Nintendo's response to third parties, and third parties should man the fuck up and have some creativity and vision for once.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
keroncoward said:


Marcan said himself on his twitter account around the same time but i wouldnt expect news like that to be taken seriously here. Im not going to go searching around Twitter just to find one quote. The fact that you agree with ethomaz (whatever the troll's name is) already confirms where your mind is set.


so me and ethomaz who take time to present information and try to have a good disucssion are trolling..... >_>

Must be nice and comfortable in denialville 

Yeah, unlike some other people in this thread (my crimson "friend") you are just stating hurtful truths and possibilities. You shouldn go too hard on some people, getting bombarded with several bad news just a few days (additionally to the daily other doom-threads) can be quite a strain :D



M.U.G.E.N said:
keroncoward said:


Marcan said himself on his twitter account around the same time but i wouldnt expect news like that to be taken seriously here. Im not going to go searching around Twitter just to find one quote. The fact that you agree with ethomaz (whatever the troll's name is) already confirms where your mind is set.


so me and ethomaz who take time to present information and try to have a good disucssion are trolling..... >_>

Must be nice and comfortable in denialville 


Oh please, I don't know about you but ethomaz has his little agenda to push.

I remember how excited he was in the Digital Foundry thread about WiiU not being next gen.

Probably came all over his screen from masturbating so furiously.



Okay, i'll admit to having a hand in how this thread degraded (though the idiocy from Epic that spawned it set the tone), but if we're just going to start insulting each other, i'm going to shut it down.

Locking.



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Mr Khan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Mr Khan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

Don't think he ever said it was 100% certain but these information were derived from the best methods possible. They were done with scans of the actual hardware that a company provided to gaf a while back for free (would have cost them a lot of money to get it done it too if they didn't get it for free. Argue with him using facts. What facts or estimates do you have? What are they based on? Why would they be better than the ones he provided? Have a proper discussion..both sides might learn things that way

WiiU IS weaker than many expected. The only ones setting themselves up is you folk who don't accept this. So many major developers have said the same. It's not they have some 'hate' towards Nintendo...it is what it is. Accept it and move on. Nintendo wanted to include the tablet controller so they cheaped out on the rest of the hardware to keep the price as low as possible and that's the reality. It's a huge risk..it worked for wii because it caught on with a whole new market that loved it! WiiU, at least as of now, doesn't seem to be anywhere near that. 

Again no one is OUT to get Nintendo. Not us nor the devs. It's upto them to turn the ship around and they are capable folk..I'm sure they will do fine. There is however no need to be so defensive of the fact that wiiu isn't much more powerful than the PS360

When are the third party apologists going to get that the third parties *are* out to get Nintendo? There's a long history of third parties double-dealing, self-sabotoging, and saying downright insulting things to Nintendo to a far greater degree than their dealings with any other manufacturer in history.

The simple fact is that third parties are either stupider than any business should be, or they are being malevolent. It depends on your outlook of human nature, but it doesn't bode well for any of them either way.

I'm willing to accept that there will be difficulties due to the hardware's strength, but the other side has to realize that the anti-Nintendo sentiment in the industry is very real, and not a "tin-foil hat" thing.

Edit: i'd like to add that if you look at my signature, i'm perfectly willing to give third party games a chance if they're quality games, despite the fact that Capcom is worthy of many a Nintendo fans' grudge after their double-dealing with Wii last generation. The hate is largely on principle, and doesn't bear out if a game is actually worth purchasing.

-_-

I honestly am not sure if I should bother explaining to you. As you seem to be more than willing to put the blame on everyone else BUT Nintendo. Seems that you think Nintendo is not to be blamed for their situation...they have done what 3rd parties have asked for them (BS) and they don't support Nintendo as much not because of hw/sw sales, not because the system is weak compared to ps4/720, and not because nintendo failed to establish a market on their console for the types of games many third parties make nowadays. The only apologist here is you defending Nintendo like no tomorrow. Wake up and smell the coffee Khan..Nintendo messed up. Their approach was high risk high reward....didn't play out as they wanted it to and now they are in a pickle. 

I will say third parties need to be a bit more respectful/professional in how they say things. But this is nothing new. PS3 had plenty of such comments aimed at it too over the initial years. Not a special case of 'hate' towards Nintendo

I'll agree that we've reached an impasse. Wii U is Nintendo's response to third parties, and third parties should man the fuck up and have some creativity and vision for once.

so 3rd parties wanted a machine with a controller with a huge screen and hardware that is only a bit more powerful than consoles that were released 5-6 years ago? Show me what 3rd party wanted that.