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BlkPaladin said:

http://www.cvgworld.com/2013/03/07/sony-to-push-for-16-million-ps4-shipments-in-2013/
Just PS4 and just in 2013 so in the time period between November-to-March they intend to ship 16 million PS4 units. I really hope it is just some exec BSing. There are exec that are bullish about their products but this more than crosses the border of being foolish.



Definitely some sort of typo or something. If I'm not mistaken, the PS3 never even shipped 16million in its peak years so Sony wouldn't expect the PS4 to ship 16 million units within its first few months. That, plus the fact that its an anonymous "source" leads me to believe its not very credible.

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NextBox and PS4 are mid range gaming PCs and you think KojiPro won't do a port to them? Come on guys MGS5 is coming to PC too.



PlaystaionGamer said:

after the MGS5 event yesterday it had me thinking a bit.. why is MGS5 on Ps3 and X360? if it was also on PS4 they probably would have announced that as we are all aware of the platform. 

Then i thought about Battlefield 4 which will be on PS3, X360, PS4 & Xbox3. the more casual gamer who would buy ths game probably wouldnt get a next gen system when they could just play it on there current system. 

This also goes with Assassin's Creed, Cod ect... 

as long as these publishers support current gen why go over to next? i rember the transition from Ps1 to Ps2 and PS2 to PS3 and not that many games where on both. there was crossover titles but not in alarminging large numbers. 

do you think the transition from 7th to 8th will take a long time? maybe not even at all for some? 

Why would he announce it for an upcoming system? That would just hurt sales of the ps360 versions. Better that he release on ps360, and then re-release in stunning 1080p bluray for both consoles.
This game is going to be massive dude. It only makes sense that it's going to hit ps420



PS4 development is easy enough that they can easily port over current-gen games. The transition will be rough, it always is, but it will be much easier than it was going from gen 6 to 7.



non-gravity said:
PS4 will be a 9th gen console.


U made my day for making me laugh lots today in ur dream 



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The more titles exist simultaneously on old and next gen consoles and the smaller is the visual gap between them, the more PS3 and Xbox 360 will endure. Not to mention the difference in prices between both consoles.

With even more resources being put on new games, the riskier it is to release them solely on HW that has just come out or has a small install base.

My guess is that, for one or two years, the big titles will appear on both old and new generation.



CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".

False. Before we even get to anecdote, just have a look at any game site. Not everyone ready for a new gen has to be "hardcore" (one of the most overused terms I've encountered).


Very well, you can knit-pick if you want. But it doesnt change the fact that "plenty" isnt the case. The vocal minority in the internet does not represent the majority of sales. Most people dont bother with gaming websites like we do. At best they check review scores.

Since both are anecdote, there's no way to prove it otherwise. No denying that "hardcore" is a cop-out term, though (call it "nit-picking" all you'd like, the validity is there, regardless).

The point is the 8th gen is far from"dead".


My point was never that it was dead, but that its gonna take time to replace current gen. Its not gonna happen in 1 year.



Grandia said:
CGI-Quality said:
Grandia said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
This is the most bizzare transition of generations ever. The over-engineering of the gen 7 machines mean they can still play great games. The new machines don't offere a clear, definitive difference in gaming as in the past. It's an upgrade process that will take a long time.


This is the point there is not even a real big graphically gap from the old systems to the new systems this time. Publishers could make pobaobly the wohle next generation games for the new and the old systems with only minor differences.

Resistance: Fall of Man is only a "minor" difference to Killzone: ShadowFall? Hmm...we definitelyvdiffer on opinion there.

Why Resistance: Fall of Man, this is probably the worst looking PS3 game ever made. Compare Crysis 3, Gears of war judgement or Uncharted 3 with Killzone: ShadowFall. There is absolut no difference, Killzone: ShadowFall could run with minor differences on a PS3 as well.

Resistance: Fall of man the worst looking? Definitely not. Haze looked worse and wasn't even a launch title. Besides, it's not as if ShadowFall will be the PS4's BEST looking game throughout its life. >.<



                                                                                                                                            

Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".

False. Before we even get to anecdote, just have a look at any game site. Not everyone ready for a new gen has to be "hardcore" (one of the most overused terms I've encountered).


Very well, you can knit-pick if you want. But it doesnt change the fact that "plenty" isnt the case. The vocal minority in the internet does not represent the majority of sales. Most people dont bother with gaming websites like we do. At best they check review scores.

Since both are anecdote, there's no way to prove it otherwise. No denying that "hardcore" is a cop-out term, though (call it "nit-picking" all you'd like, the validity is there, regardless).

The point is the 8th gen is far from"dead".


My point was never that it was dead, but that its gonna take time to replace current gen. Its not gonna happen in 1 year.

Of course it won't happen in a year, but nobody argued that it would - at least, I didn't.