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CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
Yeah, could be a while. Saints Row, Battlefield, MGS all skipping next gen. Only games which are cross gen are COD, Watch Dogs and Assassins Creed right now. People are just too happy with this gen, and why shouldn't they be?

It'll be rough for the Wii U, PS4 and NextBox, that's for sure.

Battlefield is confirmed for PS4 and MGS hasn't been ruled out. You're definitely reading too much into the OP. PLENTY of people are ready to move on.


Its also not ruled out for the Wii U *chuckle*.

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".



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Can't miss out on 150+ Million Userbase while you only have to reduce the detaillevel and stuff.
Most of those games will sell millions on the PS360 and will make up for the development costs...
You can't just stop making games for 150+ Million people cause the PS4 and NextBox are maybe coming in ~ Novemeber 2013.

There are a lot of transition games announced.Nearly every game is a transition Game right now.
AssaCreed,WatchDogs,Diablo,Destiny,Battlefield 4(yes it is PS4 confirmed),Metal Gear surely too cause it is running on their new NextGen Engine and they won't waste it on outdated CurrentGen and a lot of others are for PS360 and PS4NextBox.
Most of those games already run on NextGen Engines and just will come with ultra low detail for PS360.95% of the "gaming community" don't know anyway how a maxed out version would look like.
Just look at the Witcher 2 or Battlefield 3 - Most Console people don't know how much difference there is between the console and PC Version.
They have no clue but what do they have?MONEY publishers will try to get

We will probably have to wait at least 1 year before games for both Gens won't get released anymore.
At E3 we will probably see the first few trailers of PS4NextBox Only Games but they won't be out when those consoles get released.
The only true NextGen games we will see in the early months of the PS4 will be 1st and 2nd Party.
3rd Party will try to make as much money as possible as long as they can cause not everybody will directly buy a PS4NextBox.



Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
Yeah, could be a while. Saints Row, Battlefield, MGS all skipping next gen. Only games which are cross gen are COD, Watch Dogs and Assassins Creed right now. People are just too happy with this gen, and why shouldn't they be?

It'll be rough for the Wii U, PS4 and NextBox, that's for sure.

Battlefield is confirmed for PS4 and MGS hasn't been ruled out. You're definitely reading too much into the OP. PLENTY of people are ready to move on.

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".

False. Before we even get to anecdote, just have a look at any game site. Not everyone ready for a new gen has to be "hardcore" (one of the most overused terms I've encountered).

By this statement, you, too, have read much more into the OP than you should have.



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
Yeah, could be a while. Saints Row, Battlefield, MGS all skipping next gen. Only games which are cross gen are COD, Watch Dogs and Assassins Creed right now. People are just too happy with this gen, and why shouldn't they be?

It'll be rough for the Wii U, PS4 and NextBox, that's for sure.

Battlefield is confirmed for PS4 and MGS hasn't been ruled out. You're definitely reading too much into the OP. PLENTY of people are ready to move on.

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".

False. Before we even get to anecdote, just have a look at any game site. Not everyone ready for a new gen has to be "hardcore" (one of the most overused terms I've encountered).


Very well, you can knit-pick if you want. But it doesnt change the fact that "plenty" isnt the case. The vocal minority in the internet does not represent the majority of sales. Most people dont bother with gaming websites like we do. At best they check review scores.



All news games will be released to PS4... BattleField 4, MGS V (I'm sure), etc...

Day one buy here.



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PlaystaionGamer said:

after the MGS5 event yesterday it had me thinking a bit.. why is MGS5 on Ps3 and X360? if it was also on PS4 they probably would have announced that as we are all aware of the platform. 

Then i thought about Battlefield 4 which will be on PS3, X360, PS4 & Xbox3. the more casual gamer who would buy ths game probably wouldnt get a next gen system when they could just play it on there current system. 

This also goes with Assassin's Creed, Cod ect... 

as long as these publishers support current gen why go over to next? i rember the transition from Ps1 to Ps2 and PS2 to PS3 and not that many games where on both. there was crossover titles but not in alarminging large numbers. 

do you think the transition from 7th to 8th will take a long time? maybe not even at all for some? 


No, it is not dead by a long shot, but it will be the longest transistion in Video Game history.  Everyone expecting PS4s to fly off the shelves will be sorely dissapointed.  It may or may not outperform the Wii U but in the end, most of the biggest games will remain cross-gens for at least 2 more years. 

 

The transition will happen though, but the dynamics of the industry are changing.



Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".

False. Before we even get to anecdote, just have a look at any game site. Not everyone ready for a new gen has to be "hardcore" (one of the most overused terms I've encountered).


Very well, you can knit-pick if you want. But it doesnt change the fact that "plenty" isnt the case. The vocal minority in the internet does not represent the majority of sales. Most people dont bother with gaming websites like we do. At best they check review scores.

Since both are anecdote, there's no way to prove it otherwise. No denying that "hardcore" is a cop-out term, though (call it "nit-picking" all you'd like, the validity is there, regardless).

The point is the 8th gen is far from"dead".



                                                                                                                                            

Think about how long we got ports of many major games on PS2 years after PS3 was released. It will take some time but the transition will happen. This is where 1st party support starts getting the ball rolling until 3rd parties can get on board fully.



 

It's gonna be much better than the PS3 launch, at least. Having a couple of 1st party games from proven franchises plus a lot of multi-million selling multiplatform games is better than having a couple of alright new first party IPs and nothing else for months.

That said, I fully expect PS360 to outsell next gen consoles for about 1 year as usual (perhaps a bit shorter because this gen was overlong), so I hope no one expects unbelieveable sales out of the gate.



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Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Nem said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
Yeah, could be a while. Saints Row, Battlefield, MGS all skipping next gen. Only games which are cross gen are COD, Watch Dogs and Assassins Creed right now. People are just too happy with this gen, and why shouldn't they be?

It'll be rough for the Wii U, PS4 and NextBox, that's for sure.

Battlefield is confirmed for PS4 and MGS hasn't been ruled out. You're definitely reading too much into the OP. PLENTY of people are ready to move on.

You misinterpret "plenty" for "the hardcore".

False. Before we even get to anecdote, just have a look at any game site. Not everyone ready for a new gen has to be "hardcore" (one of the most overused terms I've encountered).


Very well, you can knit-pick if you want. But it doesnt change the fact that "plenty" isnt the case. The vocal minority in the internet does not represent the majority of sales. Most people dont bother with gaming websites like we do. At best they check review scores.

Plenty is not the same as most. There are plenty of hardcore gamers, are there not?