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PS4 Demo vs NVIDIA (PC) Demo

Quantic Dream's Demo (PS4)
NVIDIA's Demo (GTX Titan)

So I found a compartsion on a different site, and it intrigued me. I like the comparison, because not only does it show how far tech has come, it's an interesting way of showing how close consoles  have come to PC in terms of visuals. Now of course neither of the demos below are running in a complete game, but I'm still curious as to what you think. How does David Cage's PlayStation 4 engine stack up against the GTX Titan demo from March 2013? No answer is incorrect and I'm excited to get views on it:

ps4 face tech vs nvidia face

 

For comparison-sake, here is Quantic's demo vs a 8800 GTX tech demo from 2007 that I ran:



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They both creep me out and fall deeply into the Uncanny Valley. But the Nvidia demo is far more lifelike, just not lifelike enough to be mistaken for life.

kain_kusanagi said:
They both creep me out and fall deeply into the Uncanny Valley. But the Nvidia demo is far more lifelike, just not lifelike enough to be mistaken for life.

I disagree regarding David Cage's demo. That one doesn't creep me out at all. The NVIDIA demo looks a little more real, so I can see it there. 

Now, onto the question, which of them do you prefer? I'd like an answer from people who post.



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kain_kusanagi said:
They both creep me out and fall deeply into the Uncanny Valley. But the Nvidia demo is far more lifelike, just not lifelike enough to be mistaken for life.


Do you really think that the Nvidia tech demo looks more lifelike? Really? To me, the Cage head demo is just so far ahead of the Nvidia demo it makes it look last gen. Resolution has nothing to do with reality. Look at the eyes for goodness sake. They're totally dead in the Nvidia tech.



I like the overall skin shading in the Nvidia demo, but they're cheaping out with the hair. Or rather the lack of it. The guy's eyebrows are textured on vs what Quantic guys are doing. Interesting you bring up that old skin demo. Naughty Dog felt that was the best real time skin shading they've seen so for Uncharted 2 they tried their hardest to recreate it. Interesting to see the trade offs they did to get it as close as they can. You should look into that PDF for Uncharted 2, it goes into great detail about how they went about shading everything in the game. They made sure everything was shaded even if it was done poorly since it's better than nothing.

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GribbleGrunger said:
kain_kusanagi said:
They both creep me out and fall deeply into the Uncanny Valley. But the Nvidia demo is far more lifelike, just not lifelike enough to be mistaken for life.


Do you really think that the Nvidia tech demo looks more lifelike? Really? To me, the Cage head demo is just so far ahead of the Nvidia demo it makes it look last gen. Resolution has nothing to do with reality. Look at the eyes for goodness sake. They're totally dead in the Nvidia tech.

Really? Wow, I thought the NVIDIA demo looked more real. But at least you answered the question!



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Ah yes I saw the Nvidia demo a few days ago - really impressive stuff.

However the Nvidia demo seemed to take up most of the power of the Titan if I listened correctly, whereas the Quantic Dreams demo was more of an in-game demo?

Either way in terms of detail Nvidia wins hands down; it was incredible. The imperfections on the skin and the mouth were done incredibly well. All that was lacking was the detail in the eyes and the may have reduced the movement library a little too much as the movement was almost there, but there was a tiny "something" missing. This may be down to the eyes, teeth or not enough subtle facial movements. As others have said the Quantic demo seems to have better "eyes" but the detail of the skin etc with the Nvidia demo is obviously cutting edge real-time graphics on leading hardware which a console, no matter how new, won't be able to keep up with.

Nevertheless both demos demonstrated how muscle movement has been greatly improved and I look forward to the first games where we start feeling emotional connections towards people, rather than seeing them as nothing more than NPC's. At this meoment in time I feel I could relate to Quantic Dream's character more than Nvidia's, even though Nvidia's is clearly more detailed.

PS. Don't forget the rumours surrounding the Fox Engine :D



darkknightkryta said:
I like the overall skin shading in the Nvidia demo, but they're cheaping out with the hair. Or rather the lack of it. The guy's eyebrows are textured on vs what Quantic guys are doing. Interesting you bring up that old skin demo. Naughty Dog felt that was the best real time skin shading they've seen so for Uncharted 2 they tried their hardest to recreate it. Interesting to see the trade offs they did to get it as close as they can. You should look into that PDF for Uncharted 2, it goes into great detail about how they went about shading everything in the game. They made sure everything was shaded even if it was done poorly since it's better than nothing.

Never knew that about ND! Will check it out!



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The old guy is more lifelike... the other seems artificial (I think because the colors and brightness... I don't know).

Maybe is just because the old guy was made by a better team.



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I'm glad to see people really analyzing the two. Both look great and both offer strengths, in addition to weakness.

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