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Do you like Lost Odyssey?

Yes it's the best console JRPG this gen 28 9.49%
 
Yes, it's one of the better JRPG's 62 21.02%
 
Kinda, but it doesn't stand out 25 8.47%
 
It's Average 21 7.12%
 
Not really 14 4.75%
 
No, I Hate It 14 4.75%
 
I didn't play it because it's one 360 86 29.15%
 
See Results 45 15.25%
 
Total:295
Wright said:
outlawauron said:

The list crosser has some pretty terrible taste.

Well, tastes are like colours. Can't say I've agreed with him in the past, but I respect his opinion. It amazes me how he does not like the Atelier series though D:

 

On a side note, I agree with you. Lost Odyssey wasn't particulary long, but it was mainly because it stopped being challenging when the Inmortals learned every single mortal skill. They become way too overpowered. That made the game far more easy and thus, way shorter.

This is indeed true, but you can't cross off a bunch of games and leave the worst game on the list (Tales of Symphonia 2) still on there.

If I were remove any from the list, it'd be Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon, and Tales of Symphonia 2. I would have included a few other that you did not, but that's not really the point. It's not like you included Cross Edge which isn't good but still fun and campy.



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Darc Requiem said:
Lost Odyssey's characters were great. It was nice to play a JRPG in which the bulk of the cast were adults. The "kids save the world" theme of most JRPG' s can get tiresome.


now this we can agree on, which is why ive avoided some of these games. Im liking Atelier and Tales, and even though their casts could be young at least the stories are more down to earth.



outlawauron said:
Wright said:
outlawauron said:

The list crosser has some pretty terrible taste.

Well, tastes are like colours. Can't say I've agreed with him in the past, but I respect his opinion. It amazes me how he does not like the Atelier series though D:

 

On a side note, I agree with you. Lost Odyssey wasn't particulary long, but it was mainly because it stopped being challenging when the Inmortals learned every single mortal skill. They become way too overpowered. That made the game far more easy and thus, way shorter.

This is indeed true, but you can't cross off a bunch of games and leave the worst game on the list (Tales of Symphonia 2) still on there.

If I were remove any from the list, it'd be Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon, and Tales of Symphonia 2. I would have included a few other that you did not, but that's not really the point. It's not like you included Cross Edge which isn't good but still fun and campy.

 

Well, I like the JRPG genre a lot, trust me. But I'm not an expert of it. My list is probably flawed and there are tons of games that could be there. Record of Agarest War comes to my mind, for example. I did what I could ;_;



My favorite JRPG behind Persona 4.

I did everything in that game actually. By the time I got to the final boss, the game got extremely easy which I actually like because it took me so long to level up all my characters and all of them became beastly.

Honestly I don't remember much but I would say its the game that I liked best on the 360 (before it died on me a couple of years ago) and I'm not a big JRPG fan by any means. I'm actually thinking of getting a new 360 just to replay LO and catch up on Fable.



Wright said:
outlawauron said:
Wright said:
outlawauron said:

The list crosser has some pretty terrible taste.

Well, tastes are like colours. Can't say I've agreed with him in the past, but I respect his opinion. It amazes me how he does not like the Atelier series though D:

 

On a side note, I agree with you. Lost Odyssey wasn't particulary long, but it was mainly because it stopped being challenging when the Inmortals learned every single mortal skill. They become way too overpowered. That made the game far more easy and thus, way shorter.

This is indeed true, but you can't cross off a bunch of games and leave the worst game on the list (Tales of Symphonia 2) still on there.

If I were remove any from the list, it'd be Enchanted Arms, Blue Dragon, and Tales of Symphonia 2. I would have included a few other that you did not, but that's not really the point. It's not like you included Cross Edge which isn't good but still fun and campy.

 

Well, I like the JRPG genre a lot, trust me. But I'm not an expert of it. My list is probably flawed and there are tons of games that could be there. Record of Agarest War comes to my mind, for example. I did what I could ;_;

Record of Agarest War came to mind for me as well. Started playing it again recently. It has a good battle system and the story is good as well. Definitely for fans of SRPGs and VNs.



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I'm not a JPRG fan, but Lost Odyssey is my favorite JRPG this gen. At the time, I believe many people would have ranked it as the best JRPG so far this gen. But because its only on the 360, other games like Valkyria Chronicles stole its thunder because more traditional JRPG gamers prefer the Sony / Nintendo consoles.



 

Underrated.



lurkerwithnosoul said:

 

Underrated.

It had a great OST and battle system, I just thought everything else was mediocre or worse. Especially disliked the story and characters and it's really not very tough for me to like characters.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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outlawauron said:

Record of Agarest War came to mind for me as well. Started playing it again recently. It has a good battle system and the story is good as well. Definitely for fans of SRPGs and VNs.


Yup. But I'm screwed. The Xbox 360 version never came to Europe. Even if I were to import the game from the United States, the damn thing is region-lock. So no Record of Agarest War for me D:



Torillian said:
Mad55 said:
Torillian said:
Mad55 said:
Torillian said:
Mad55 said:

lol JRPg's are niche in general. Lost odyssey wasn't some super big budgeted game like final fantasy. but yea its all good lol.


Lost Odyssey didn't have a super big budget but it certainly had a bigger budget than all the games you listed.  Hell it might have a bigger budget than all those games combined, unless you think that Lost Odyssey's production values come from just being better at coding for no increased cost for some reason. 

I wish companies would put out budgets for games like movies do so I can stop seeing ridiculous things like comparing Lost Odyssey to Hyperdimension Neptunia.  

I think its budget was higher but not by much.  also a higher budget doesn't guarantee higher sales. 

A TV commercial certainly does.  You show me a TV commercial for any of those supposedly just as Niche JRPGs that you listed.  Hell, Demon's Souls and VC didn't have TV commercials either even though they're probably closer to the budget of Lost Odyssey.  

Budgets aren't higher by much?  Atelier titles continue to get sequels before Western sales even come in, so Atelier Ayesha got a sequel based off of 130,000 sales in Japan.  That's the kind of budget those games have, do you honestly think Lost Odyssey would make a profit off of 130,000 sales?

The idea of comparing "new IP JRPG selling ability" by looking at games in completely different situations is ridiculous.  Want a new IP JRPG to look at?Resonance of Fate which is actually a reasonable comparison because they're in the exact same situation.  Same game, same budgets, same marketting campaigns, and it's a new IP.  

If two jrgs come out at the same time with the same development budget and one has a commercial and the other doesnt and the one with the commercial sucks ass and the one without the commercial is incredible and their both new IPs ill say the one without the commercial will do betteroverall. 


Possibly, but you'd be hard pressed to prove that quality is more of a determining factor to eventual sales than marketting.  You can get grass roots long term sales like Demon's Souls or Valkyria Chronicles but I don't really see much similarity between the sales patterns of those two games and that of Lost Odyssey.  

To be honest, I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make, how does the above legitimize your claim that Neptunia is comparable to Lost Odyssey and therefore shows that 360 is a better place for new IPs?

I never  once said the 360 was a better place for new ips more I showing that there's a good market for it and that the ps3 isn't some sure shot for good sales for jrpgs as some In This thread are saying. The original poster who I was quoting acted as If the ps3 would have made the lost odyssey sell better back then and that wasn't a fact but a possibility.