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thekitchensink said:
Wright said:
thekitchensink said:
Wright said:
thekitchensink said:

I respect their decision to make Beyond, but I wish they had done this, too. Some of the endings in Heavy Rain were very clearly setting up sequels :(


Hum...not exactly. I felt like the endings were rushed, or lazy job at the very end.


So you don't think the one where a  completely new serial killer challenges Madison was setting up Heavy Rain 2?


Put that in spoiler, please xD And I always thought that the voice Madison hear was the Doctor's, at least they sound pretty similar and Madison's mind is not entirely right.

XD sorry, meant to do that.  But yeah, at her book signing, if it was just some doctor, I really don't see why she'd suddenly totally flip out.


Who knows. But we'll never know. Just as we'll never know how Nahman got his scar ;_;



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sales2099 said:

Does sony own this developer? If not, then offcourse Sony can't impose deadlines. That would be just silly.

Yes they can. It's just like any other IT partnership. If deadlines are required to be met by the publisher/business that's funding a game/project, the developer/IT Shop will then determine if the deadlines are realistic before agreeing to them. If the developer/IT Shop misses some, several, or all of the agreed upon deadline, funding can pulled for the project by the publisher/business. It's pretty standard fare.



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Wright said:
thekitchensink said:
Wright said:
thekitchensink said:
Wright said:
thekitchensink said:

I respect their decision to make Beyond, but I wish they had done this, too. Some of the endings in Heavy Rain were very clearly setting up sequels :(


Hum...not exactly. I felt like the endings were rushed, or lazy job at the very end.


So you don't think the one where a  completely new serial killer challenges Madison was setting up Heavy Rain 2?


Put that in spoiler, please xD And I always thought that the voice Madison hear was the Doctor's, at least they sound pretty similar and Madison's mind is not entirely right.

XD sorry, meant to do that.  But yeah, at her book signing, if it was just some doctor, I really don't see why she'd suddenly totally flip out.


Who knows. But we'll never know. Just as we'll never know how Nahman got his scar ;_;


You mean Agent Nommin' Jayden, FBI?



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adriane23 said:
sales2099 said:

Does sony own this developer? If not, then offcourse Sony can't impose deadlines. That would be just silly.

Yes they can. It's just like any other IT partnership. If deadlines are required to be met by the publisher/business that's funding a game/project, the developer/IT Shop will then determine if the deadlines are realistic before agreeing to them. If the developer/IT Shop misses some, several, or all of the agreed upon deadline, funding can pulled for the project by the publisher/business. It's pretty standard fare.

Well clearly Sony is the exception. Sony for example OWNS Polyphany Digital, and they seemed comfortable with delays, giving them all the time in the world. Another example being last guardian.

Sony just seems very "non chalante" about these things for some reason.



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sales2099 said:

Does sony own this developer? If not, then offcourse Sony can't impose deadlines. That would be just silly.

With a game that's fully funded, I imagine they would have quite a bit of power.  At the very least, they could cancel the project at any time.  Some publishers use that power to the limits, like EA and Activision.

I think that Sony is by far one of the better publishers out there.  They bent over backwards for thatgamecompany.  They let studios like Naughty Dog pick their own projects.  Sanzaru came to them with a Sly Cooper demo and Sony gave them the greenlight.  With games like Heavy Rain, how many publishers would have backed something different like that?  If a developer has proven themselves then Sony seems willing to give them artistic freedom.  I can respect that.



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thekitchensink said:


You mean Agent Nommin' Jayden, FBI?

 

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sales2099 said:
adriane23 said:
sales2099 said:

Does sony own this developer? If not, then offcourse Sony can't impose deadlines. That would be just silly.

Yes they can. It's just like any other IT partnership. If deadlines are required to be met by the publisher/business that's funding a game/project, the developer/IT Shop will then determine if the deadlines are realistic before agreeing to them. If the developer/IT Shop misses some, several, or all of the agreed upon deadline, funding can pulled for the project by the publisher/business. It's pretty standard fare.

Well clearly Sony is the exception. Sony for example OWNS Polyphany Digital, and they seemed comfortable with delays, giving them all the time in the world. Another example being last guardian.

Sony just seems very "non chalante" about these things for some reason.

Doesn't make your initial statement correct. Sony being flexible doesn't mean they can't enforce things. They just choose not to and give more freedom to the devs..especially those like PD who have proven themselves. 

In the case of 2nd party and 3rd party publishing there will be contracts and deadlines in place and they can enforce them if they choose to. It's just Business 101



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CGI-Quality said:
Of course they don't. Sony realizes their visions, and fund their projects. Stay exclusive.

Yeah i mean really.  I sorta doubt they would of been more profitable on two consoles.



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sales2099 said:
adriane23 said:
sales2099 said:

Does sony own this developer? If not, then offcourse Sony can't impose deadlines. That would be just silly.

Yes they can. It's just like any other IT partnership. If deadlines are required to be met by the publisher/business that's funding a game/project, the developer/IT Shop will then determine if the deadlines are realistic before agreeing to them. If the developer/IT Shop misses some, several, or all of the agreed upon deadline, funding can pulled for the project by the publisher/business. It's pretty standard fare.

Well clearly Sony is the exception. Sony for example OWNS Polyphany Digital, and they seemed comfortable with delays, giving them all the time in the world. Another example being last guardian.

Sony just seems very "non chalante" about these things for some reason.

i think nintendo can be very forgiving of delays too.  the activisions and EAs of the world only care about the profitability of a game.  platform owners can profit from the game as well as the hardware sales driven by having a "killer ap" and in general are willing to be more non chalante about these things.

..it's kind of why i like first/second party games soo much.  i feel like you can really feel the extra "love" in their craftmanship.

 

anyhoo, i love heavy rain and really excited about beyond.  i'm happy to hear i'll have more to play from them.