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JayWood2010 said:
DanneSandin said:

 

Apparently not that good a game designer.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently none of these three are.

I'd actually only say one of those 3 are.... of course to be fair i have no idea who the white dude is.

Additionally, he was just naming dudes off the top of his head.



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Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
9087 said:
JayWood2010 said:
DanneSandin said:

 

Apparently not that good a game designer.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently none of these three are.


how dare you put cliffy b in the same post as kojima and miyamoto


As shown above in a previous post he has made hit game after hit game.  gears, Unreal tournament,  Jazz Jackrabbit, Infinity Blade, Shadow Complex, he was also working on Fortnite.  Most of those are in just the last 5 years.  Tell me who else has a track record like that?   he has yet to make a bad game.  Kojima has only made one good series and I included him.  Miyamoto is just a legend that has some of the most iconic characters of all time.

Use your brain.

Go ahead and start naming them.  These are the first 3 guys that comes to my mind.  There are other great caliber developers but id like you to name some that has yet to make a bad game and has thrown hit after hit out there.  

Im not saying Cliff is the best ever and he is actually hated by many because of his attitude but you would be a fool to say he is bad at what he does because only a few developers can say they have achieved as much as he has in a short amount of time.

I gave you a hint already. You like metacritic scores, right? Take a look at the score of every game he has directed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Kamiya


And that is a great track record.  As i said there are other gret caliber designers but not many is at that level.  Read my posts again. I never said that these are the only 3. These are the ones that came to my mind first and most of my responses was not towards you.  And when I said some I meant more than one.  There are great designers but the previous guy laughing because I put Cliff on that list is of poor judgement.  same goes to people making fun of Peter Molyxnuex.  He has been great and even Fable as a whole has been great.  3 was not so good but he has a lot of games from the 90s that was good too.  



Kantor said:
Well, that's rather conceited from somebody who hasn't really made anything since the 1990s.

There are plenty of great developers out there.


You expect modesty from the guy who named himself Lord British, made $150,000 off of a videogame he programmed at 18, and didn't even try to sell, then after being in the industry for a while decided to send himself to space just for the hell of it?



JayWood2010 said:
Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
9087 said:
JayWood2010 said:
DanneSandin said:

 

Apparently not that good a game designer.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently none of these three are.


how dare you put cliffy b in the same post as kojima and miyamoto


As shown above in a previous post he has made hit game after hit game.  gears, Unreal tournament,  Jazz Jackrabbit, Infinity Blade, Shadow Complex, he was also working on Fortnite.  Most of those are in just the last 5 years.  Tell me who else has a track record like that?   he has yet to make a bad game.  Kojima has only made one good series and I included him.  Miyamoto is just a legend that has some of the most iconic characters of all time.

Use your brain.

Go ahead and start naming them.  These are the first 3 guys that comes to my mind.  There are other great caliber developers but id like you to name some that has yet to make a bad game and has thrown hit after hit out there.  

Im not saying Cliff is the best ever and he is actually hated by many because of his attitude but you would be a fool to say he is bad at what he does because only a few developers can say they have achieved as much as he has in a short amount of time.

I gave you a hint already. You like metacritic scores, right? Take a look at the score of every game he has directed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Kamiya


And that is a great track record.  As i said there are other gret caliber designers but not many is at that level.  Read my posts again. I never said that these are the only 3. These are the ones that came to my mind first and most of my responses was not towards you.  And when I said some I meant more than one.  There are great designers but the previous guy laughing because I put Cliff on that list is of poor judgement.  same goes to people making fun of Peter Molyxnuex.  He has been great and even Fable as a whole has been great.  3 was not so good but he has a lot of games from the 90s that was good too.  

You still haven't noticed that I already said Hideki Kamiya before all that with my "use your brain" post, and that that was my answer to your "Tell me who else has a track record like that?" question, right?



Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Player2 said:
JayWood2010 said:
9087 said:
JayWood2010 said:
DanneSandin said:

 

Apparently not that good a game designer.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently none of these three are.


how dare you put cliffy b in the same post as kojima and miyamoto


As shown above in a previous post he has made hit game after hit game.  gears, Unreal tournament,  Jazz Jackrabbit, Infinity Blade, Shadow Complex, he was also working on Fortnite.  Most of those are in just the last 5 years.  Tell me who else has a track record like that?   he has yet to make a bad game.  Kojima has only made one good series and I included him.  Miyamoto is just a legend that has some of the most iconic characters of all time.

Use your brain.

Go ahead and start naming them.  These are the first 3 guys that comes to my mind.  There are other great caliber developers but id like you to name some that has yet to make a bad game and has thrown hit after hit out there.  

Im not saying Cliff is the best ever and he is actually hated by many because of his attitude but you would be a fool to say he is bad at what he does because only a few developers can say they have achieved as much as he has in a short amount of time.

I gave you a hint already. You like metacritic scores, right? Take a look at the score of every game he has directed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Kamiya


And that is a great track record.  As i said there are other gret caliber designers but not many is at that level.  Read my posts again. I never said that these are the only 3. These are the ones that came to my mind first and most of my responses was not towards you.  And when I said some I meant more than one.  There are great designers but the previous guy laughing because I put Cliff on that list is of poor judgement.  same goes to people making fun of Peter Molyxnuex.  He has been great and even Fable as a whole has been great.  3 was not so good but he has a lot of games from the 90s that was good too.  

You still haven't noticed that I already said Hideki Kamiya before all that with my "use your brain" post, and that that was my answer to your "Tell me who else has a track record like that?" question, right?

lmao XD ohhhhh.  I would have never figured it out if you didnt tell me just now haha

On a side note, i didnt know he made Bayonetta.  Good job



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I'm depressed because he didn't mention my idol and living legend Todd Howard, but I guess he still has a point.



Kamiya's directors list reads like a gaming's best. Not one of his directed games have scored under 90% (PS3 Bayonetta nonwithstanding). As for Kojima, the man is a bonafide genius, Snatcher and Policenauts are classics of the adventure genre, Boktai was clever and innovative and ZOE 2 still needs that sequel and while crafting the Fox engine, still had time to produce Castlevania: LoS and direct Peacewalker. Metal Gear merely pays the bills so Kojima can indulge in more esoteric projects. Miyamoto, goes without saying. No other director/producer has made games in this industry that has both the critical mass and commercial success of this man. From Donkey Kong, to a very hands on producer of Metroid Prime to Wii Sports, he's the undisputed king. Shinji Mikami is another acclaimed hitmaker I would add, RE, RE4, Dino Crisis 1, Vanquish, the upcoming Zwei and the criminally overlooked Godhand. As for Garriot, guys a blockhead who hasn't had a hit since the 90's. Ultima never made or will make FF numbers.



I agree with him, but I also feel that he should include himself in the category of game designers that suck.



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F0X said:
People who live in glass houses... should've never made Tabula Rasa.

Ha ha ha, that is full re-entry burn right there!



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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CGI-Quality said:
Wright said:
CGI-Quality said:

Hmmm, I wouldn't say we suck, Mr Garriott. We just need to go back to the drawing board in some areas, which is one of the reasons I decided to join the industry in the first place.


Didn't know you were so in-touch with the Industry! ò.O You gotta show me what you've done 'till now.

Sure will, bud. :)

I'll have something in June, just wait!

I'll be patient :3