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ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:


i asked you a question.....were placing a bet......

No because you don't know what you are talking.

Evasive.



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KeptoKnight said:
ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:


i asked you a question.....were placing a bet......

No because you don't know what you are talking.

Evasive.

Don't take that personal... I just make bets when I thinks there are some reasonable opinion behind but you just didn't know the high-enthusiastic PC community is very small and nobody in the that community will buy the Steam Box... they will mount your own PC instead.

ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:
ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:


i asked you a question.....were placing a bet......

No because you don't know what you are talking.

Evasive.

Don't take that personal... I just make bets when I thinks there are some reasonable opinion behind but you just didn't know the high-enthusiastic PC community is very small.

I didn't?..... really? 13 years so far and counting. cool story isn't it?



ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:
ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:


i asked you a question.....were placing a bet......

No because you don't know what you are talking.

Evasive.

Don't take that personal... I just make bets when I thinks there are some reasonable opinion behind but you just didn't know the high-enthusiastic PC community is very small and nobody in the that community will buy the Steam Box... they will mount your own PC instead.

Nobody? Is this just about "them?"



Somini said:

“The off-the-shelf philosophy behind the architecture makes sense from a pricing and heating point of view, but it also means that Sony more easily can make incremental improvements of their system. If that’s actually their plan I don’t know, but it could help preventing the inevitable loss of market shares that the long console cycles entails.”

http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-will-will-out-power-most-pcs-for-years-to-come-avalanche-studios-cto

 


Great news, it is a good studio, they sure put a lot of effort. I wish they made a game like the first MERCENAIRES, more serious and tense, that was a cool game. Just Cause is ok, however the hero is too much of a prick for my taste.



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KeptoKnight said:

I didn't?..... really? 13 years so far and counting. cool story isn't it?

Well you think most PC gamers have GTX 680+ or HD 7970+... in fact 99% of the PC gamers was GPU below these flag marks.

ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:

I didn't?..... really? 13 years so far and counting. cool story isn't it?

Well you think most PC gamers have GTX 680+ or HD 7970+... in fact 99% of the PC gamers was GPU below these flag marks.

Where did I mention that?

*You went off at a complete tangent by the way.....go back and review the post.

*New cards always release anyhow and become affordable.



ethomaz said:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

The % usage of GPU that have power to outpower the PS4.

0.94% NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680
0.52% ATI Radeon HD 7970
< 0.51% HD 7990 / GTX 690 / GTX Titan

All combined: < 2% of all hardware in Steam.

Not really arguing with your premise but the PS4 with a 1.8TFlops GPU would put it somewhere between a HD 7870 GHz edt (2,560 GFlops) and the HD 7850 (1,761 Gflops). A HD 6950 would also be comparable at a general performance level even if it lacks the compute enhancements. On the Nvidia side a GTX570 and up or a GTX 660 and up would be in the same general performance bracket. And then you have people with multiple lesser GPUs which for some reason some people do actually use. 

So the percentage of people with GPUs with more raw power is quite a bit higher than 2% even if it's still small. 

there is also the Radeon HD 7970M and GeForce GTX 680M but I doubt their install base is anything of note.



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zarx said:

Not really arguing with your premise but the PS4 with a 1.8TFlops GPU would put it somewhere between a HD 7870 GHz edt (2,560 GFlops) and the HD 7850 (1,761 Gflops). A HD 6950 would also be comparable at a general performance level even if it lacks the compute enhancements. On the Nvidia side a GTX570 and up or a GTX 660 and up would be in the same general performance bracket. And then you have people with multiple lesser GPUs which for some reason some people do actually use.

So the percentage of people with GPUs with more raw power is quite a bit higher than 2% even if it's still small.

there is also the Radeon HD 7970M and GeForce GTX 680M but I doubt their install base is anything of note.

I think any GPU below 2.5 TFLOPS (AMD) will perform worst than the PS4 GPU... so you can remove HD 7970M, H 6950, HD 7970, etc... the GeForce equivalent too so GTX570, GTX 660, etc. But I know there are HD 6990, HD 5970, and GeForce equivalent that can performe better than PS4 GPU and my 2% is already counting these cases...

Even if you think 5% of the Steam have a system to perform better than the PS4... in fact is yet too low... some PC users here seems to think everybody have a PC gamer that can perform better than PS4 but the really is another... few gaming system can performace better than a PS4 and that in not change in the first PS4 years.

I guess in terms of power the PS4 is more advanced (or at least close) than what PS3 was when released comparede to PC... well the PS3 have a downclocked 7800 GPU while in the market we have 7900 dual-gpu and HD X1900.

The 360 GPU at launch (2005) was more advanced than any GPU on the market for at least one year BTW... only in late 2006 (when PS3 released) the AMD and nVidia released GPUs to perform better than the 360 GPU.



ethomaz said:
KeptoKnight said:

yeah. well welcome to VGCHARTZ....is why i dont post much. PC and Steambox will be ahead of this shit anyhow. The hype is here because they are the "first" to announce realism > gameplay mechanics.

Again the Steam shows the opposite....

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

I guess the Steam Box will be a mid-end PC with a HD 6670 GPU... that will be better than 90% of the gamers PC.


But steam doesn't show the whole truth and keep in mind that pc-gamers will buy new hardware when it is needed. Next-Gen consoles will push the whole industry (new complexer engines, for example) so pc-"masterrace" will pimp up. Also PS4 isn't released yet - the survey should be redone end of the year.