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pezus said:
newwil7l said:


3DS is also probably heavily undertracked.

You base this on what?


When Fire Emblem released, with a bundle no less, the 3DS sales in NA actually dropped. A game with a 200k opening doesn't make a hardware drop.

3DS week ending Feb 2nd-20k

3DS week ending Feb 9th-19k

So it's pretty safe to say it's undertracked.



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ok sales overall i guess, my walmart and target in town , havent had a vita system in stock since early jan i think. they are sending there games to other stores i was told today as well, it seems they are making room for more ps3 games instead.



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VGKing said:

Compare whatever you want, but keep your expectations realistic. Nintendo handhelds have always dominated the competition. PSP was the only one that survived and that was becasue of Monster Hunter, something that Nintendo now has exclusively on the 3DS. If Vita ever recovers from this horrible launch, it will be years from now. It wont' happen overnight like you keep expecting it too.

it did get close this week btw.

3DS = 77k
Vita = 60k

This is as close as Vita has been to 3DS sales in like the past year. It's especially good considering there's no significant release this week.(I don't consider the 2 releases from this week system sellers). But you keep saying the price cut should have pushed Vita sales much more so I guess you're disappointed. I can't change your opininion so let's move on.

Youre really annoying me now with this straw man. Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said it would "recover over night" and I certainly dont expect it to. I expected the Vita on pricecut week to atleast put up a fight against its nearest competitor, especially with a new game out. 60k was the very lowest I expected. ON PRICECUT WEEK. Thats it. Stop your rubbish.

17k? Its a significant number. You could increase Vita sales by 20% and it wouldnt be higher than 3DS. Its not close.



                            

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Carl2291 said:
VGKing said:

Compare whatever you want, but keep your expectations realistic. Nintendo handhelds have always dominated the competition. PSP was the only one that survived and that was becasue of Monster Hunter, something that Nintendo now has exclusively on the 3DS. If Vita ever recovers from this horrible launch, it will be years from now. It wont' happen overnight like you keep expecting it too.

it did get close this week btw.

3DS = 77k
Vita = 60k

This is as close as Vita has been to 3DS sales in like the past year. It's especially good considering there's no significant release this week.(I don't consider the 2 releases from this week system sellers). But you keep saying the price cut should have pushed Vita sales much more so I guess you're disappointed. I can't change your opininion so let's move on.

Youre really annoying me now with this straw man. Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said it would "recover over night" and I certainly dont expect it to. I expected the Vita on pricecut week to atleast put up a fight against its nearest competitor, especially with a new game out. 60k was the very lowest I expected. ON PRICECUT WEEK. Thats it. Stop your rubbish.

17k? Its a significant number. You could increase Vita sales by 20% and it wouldnt be higher than 3DS. Its not close.

Same here. You brought up how the 3DS sold 200k on price cut week...why would you bring that up? Because you expected Vita to do similar numbers. Which is unrealistic, since this is Vita which sold 11k units the week before. Vita did put up a fight against the 3DS on price cut week. 17k is a measly difference and much better than it was a few months ago when 3DS outsold Vita 20 to 1. That's it. Stop YOUR rubbish.

You seem to be the only one with unrealstic Vita expectations. So get your expectations down, it's going to take years for Vita to put up a fight on a weekly basis.



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pezus said:
Otakumegane said:
pezus said:
newwil7l said:


3DS is also probably heavily undertracked.

You base this on what?


When Fire Emblem released, with a bundle no less, the 3DS sales in NA actually dropped. A game with a 200k opening doesn't make a hardware drop.

3DS week ending Feb 2nd-20k

3DS week ending Feb 9th-19k

So it's pretty safe to say it's undertracked.

It has nothing to do with this week's sales though, but considering 3DS was overtracked last month I don't think it's very likely that 3DS is being undertracked now.

Let's just wait for the NPD numbers. 



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VGKing said:

Same here. You brought up how the 3DS sold 200k on price cut week...why would you bring that up? Because you expected Vita to do similar numbers. Which is unrealistic, since this is Vita which sold 11k units the week before. Vita did put up a fight against the 3DS on price cut week. 17k is a measly difference and much better than it was a few months ago when 3DS outsold Vita 20 to 1. That's it. Stop YOUR rubbish.

You seem to be the only one with unrealstic Vita expectations. So get your expectations down, it's going to take years for Vita to put up a fight on a weekly basis.

Where the fuck did I say I expected it to match the 200k?! I used the 3DS cut numbers to show how long it took to drop to these "impressivex" Vita numbers. Its pretty obvious to any educated individual that Ive been talking about this week, thus the 17k away comments earlier.

I expected around 80k. The highest of 95k and the lowest of 65k. Youre expectations are just as "bad" as mine with your pathetic 40k numbers.

I dont expect it to match the 3DS every week, I expected it to match the 3DS this fucking week.



                            

Carl2291 said:
VGKing said:

Same here. You brought up how the 3DS sold 200k on price cut week...why would you bring that up? Because you expected Vita to do similar numbers. Which is unrealistic, since this is Vita which sold 11k units the week before. Vita did put up a fight against the 3DS on price cut week. 17k is a measly difference and much better than it was a few months ago when 3DS outsold Vita 20 to 1. That's it. Stop YOUR rubbish.

You seem to be the only one with unrealstic Vita expectations. So get your expectations down, it's going to take years for Vita to put up a fight on a weekly basis.

Where the fuck did I say I expected it to match the 200k?! I used the 3DS cut numbers to show how long it took to drop to these "impressivex" Vita numbers. Its pretty obvious to any educated individual that Ive been talking about this week, thus the 17k away comments earlier.

I expected around 80k. The highest of 95k and the lowest of 65k. Youre expectations are just as "bad" as mine with your pathetic 40k numbers.

I dont expect it to match the 3DS every week, I expected it to match the 3DS this fucking week.

Well it didn't so get over it.



Carl2291 said:
VGKing said:

Same here. You brought up how the 3DS sold 200k on price cut week...why would you bring that up? Because you expected Vita to do similar numbers. Which is unrealistic, since this is Vita which sold 11k units the week before. Vita did put up a fight against the 3DS on price cut week. 17k is a measly difference and much better than it was a few months ago when 3DS outsold Vita 20 to 1. That's it. Stop YOUR rubbish.

You seem to be the only one with unrealstic Vita expectations. So get your expectations down, it's going to take years for Vita to put up a fight on a weekly basis.

Where the fuck did I say I expected it to match the 200k?! I used the 3DS cut numbers to show how long it took to drop to these "impressivex" Vita numbers. Its pretty obvious to any educated individual that Ive been talking about this week, thus the 17k away comments earlier.

I expected around 80k. The highest of 95k and the lowest of 65k. Youre expectations are just as "bad" as mine with your pathetic 40k numbers.

I dont expect it to match the 3DS every week, I expected it to match the 3DS this fucking week.

Remember that even though Vita is cheaper, it's still more expensive than the 3DS. 3DS has huge games released and coming, the nation knows its quality and is crazy about it. 62k doesn't look great on its own, but when you compare it to 77k of 3DS it actually looks good and is close enough. Vita had nothing going its way for months, this is the first step and it's really ok, since the market has undeniably reacted to the cut. Now we have to wait and see what the sales in March and April are going to be like and I think they should be good, since there are many games coming.

And there really is no use in comparing Vita to 3DS, as it will never beat it and it doesn't need to do it. All that matters at this point is whether Vita becomes a viable platform and stays on the market or becomes discontinued and dies. Looking at how more and more Japanese games set their sales records on Vita, I hope that it continues to get 3rd party support and pick up sales.



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My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

As usual in this period this year, the only good ones are 3DS and PS3. XB360 decent.
PSV good boost in Japan and WW, but it really needs higher sales also in America and Europe.
Excellent SW sales overall for Sony in Japan. Always in Japan, but taking platforms individually, very good SW sales for 3DS and PS3 and good for PSV.
WiiU steals from PSV the crown of latest gen d0m3d platform. But I'm still persuaded that Ninty will be able to make it sell more than GC lifetime.



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